Lessons - Transforming Personal Challenges Into Fuel For Unprecedented Achievement | Travis Hearn - Mindset Expert & Pastor

In this lessons episode, discover how life's fires from personal failures to moments of crisis serve as catalysts for growth and purpose. Learn why setbacks like a DUI or business collapse can refine character rather than define it. Learn how reframing trials as controlled fires reveals hidden strengths and understand why embracing vulnerability and faith provides practical tools for navigating life's toughest challenges. As we go through your journey, the fire is for you. What does that mean to you as a title and why did you choose it? But what does it mean to you as you go through all these inflection points in your life? For example, when you go through that point where you have your DUI, you go to your mom's pastor's house for the first time, connect those dots for me. Great question. The fire is for you title. The book is not it's not a it's not a book of it is about what happened and things that I've been to. The book is for you. The book is for the reader. The book is because every one of us, every one of us, go through fires. Right? So you just said like you have a business in or you know, you're your chase, you're chase, we all do that. Man, like man, I want to build a great company. The church is a business. The church is a ministry, but it's a business. It is a it is a corporation. It has money coming in, money going out. You know, we've got I've got 50 full-time employees, probably another 50-part time employee. Like the church is a business. You're growing the church. Yes, it's ministry, but there is this business. We have HR department. We've got, you know, conforming abide by laws and all these things. You know, so impact church, my church, it's entrepreneur, entrepreneur, birthed out of a Bible study for the Arizona Cardinals. So the Arizona Cardinals football team start, you know, start a Bible study for the football team, eventually open it to the public in the rest of history. So going back to your question, my church is flooded with people going through fires. So is this nation? So is this world? Man, I'm going through depression. That's a fire, anxiety, fear, guilt, worry, shame, shame. Oh my gosh. The times that we've done stuff in our life that that we're not proud of and we know other people that hurt them and we can carry this shame, this guilt. And so those are fires, man, cancer. My stepfather was diagnosed with cancer given two to five years to live. It's my mom's, you know, third marriage, her first great marriage. He's a good man. That's a fire. My sibling who is fighting fentanyl addiction. That's a fire. Like we all go through fires. Man, addiction, alcoholism, brokenness, divorce, failure, my business, dude, I, this is the fourth time I've tried to get a company off the ground and all four of them have like, that's a fire, right? So what, what, what I have learned in my own life is that God, God, there are no wildfires in life. There are only controlled fires, meaning scripture, whether somebody believes in it or not, you can't, you can't deny the things that it says, the truth, the little nuggets of truth, like vow shall not murder. Maybe you don't believe in God or Jesus, but I mean, that's a pretty good rule to live by matter if you don't believe in God. Yeah, don't murder. Don't commit adultery. I mean, that's kind of good. Don't lie. Don't cheat. Don't steal. Don't, you know, but, but one of them, one of the scripture, a couple of them, but that it talks about how we, we get put in the fires to be tested in that fire purifies us, right? It refines us. So the fire of brokenness that I went through, the fire of that failure, that's going to refine me because I'm not doing that ever again. So that's refining me, right? The fire of whatever, infidelity or the fire of cheating or and I get you get caught. Okay, well, that sucks. We're human, man. We all, we have all done human stuff, but hopefully we learn from that and we go, man, I need to change some things about who I am. Maybe I need some therapy. Maybe I need some, some counseling, right? And so the fire, the fire being for you, it purifies you, it hopefully it burns out the, your own means doesn't feel like it though. And the moment it's hot, it burns. It feels like the house is going to burn down. See in the Bible, it uses three metaphors for trial. It uses storms. It uses valleys and it uses fires, right? And so the fire is for you is a book for people to go, dude, I've gone through some, some hell and this book is going to help you get through your hell. I've gone through some hell too. You know, being a man of faith doesn't exempt you, doesn't put an umbrella of like, you know, like, dude, this is life. This isn't heaven. The, you know, it rains on the just and the unjust and good things happen to bad people and bad things happen to good people. And so going back to your story, the fire is for you. That's what that title means to me because like two years ago, I went through the fire of my life. My family, we went through the fire of our life and it almost killed me. So I wanted to talk about what that fire was in a second. I want to go there just yet. I just want to, I want to just point out. So even when you're getting that DUI and kind of just like talking back to something that I mentioned about if it didn't happen, who knows when it would have happened, right? And that's like the perfect example of fires for you. And I think that without the biblical analogies, I think that when people go through stuff, when people go through really hard times, the people that I repeatedly see come out of that successful because everybody goes through like, you might, everybody does, it's not like a, hopefully it doesn't happen to me. Like, life's going to have to have you and life's going to have me. Fire's going to happen to your airless. But it is how you come out on the other side of it. So, so how did you, how did you come out on the other side of that DUI? But I do want to, and I'll answer that question. I do want to say you literally just, you literally, you just, you were a preacher for a second. Because because here's why, because you say, well, you said it's not if it's when. Yeah. Right. Well, David said and saw one of them, one of the most famous chapters in the Bible that that every rapper has done a segment on this chapter is even though I walk, even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, right? I shall fear no evil for you, you are with me. What does he say? He says, even though I walk, he doesn't say, I hope I don't, he doesn't say maybe, hope, like it might, no, he says even though and, and, and those are valleys. And so going back to that DUI, I wouldn't be who I am today without it. I always say I went from jail to Jesus. Like, like, that was a wild day. I went from like, I had this cool accolade and, you know, got an award to like, dude, I got arrested, put in jail to like, dude, I just discovered my purpose in life. And, and yeah, it did, it did, it did shape me. It did define me. God has no, this is what I've learned, dude, I'm in the people business. Yeah. I have, I have billionaires in my church, you know, 500 millionaires, 200 millionaires, like it's Scottsdale. It's the entrepreneurial hub of the nation. It's a very, that's a very wealthy city, very wealthy city, very affluent. That I, I, I pastor pro athletes. I have for 23 years. The biggest names in sports are in my church. They're in my phone. I pastor them, right? This is the thing when, when you talk about mine, mine was jail. I was like, dude, I, I screwed that up. But a lot of times people have everything. And it looks seemingly good realizing, dude, I have nothing. And a great example of that is a friend of mine that I had on our stage in year three of the churches, Rev. Run from Rundy, MC, right? And I interviewed him and I go, dude, like, when did you become a Christian? Because he's obviously very vocal about his faith. And he goes, my top, he goes, my top was my bottom. And I go, tell him, he goes, you know how a lot of people, they hit rock bottom. And then like, oh, I found God and I found real, I'm like, yeah, that, yeah, I know about that. I know. And he goes, well, mine was the opposite. I'm run Rundy, MC at the peak of like, Rundy, MC, right? He's like, dude, I got everything you can buy. I bought it. I've got everything money can buy. I've got any, any earthly thing that you want in this world. I got it. And he goes, and I felt so spiritually bankrupt that in my bathtub, I write then and there with a pile a pile of weed on the bathtub. He's like, I said, you know what, I'm going to give this, this Jesus thing a try. You know, and I think, what, what are we trying to do? I can tell you story after story after story. Scott, I could tell you hundreds of stories of people who are trying to chase what many of us are trying to chase. And they've got it. I can tell you the hundreds and hundreds of people that have gotten it. And they go, dude, this is empty. This is lonely. I'm broken. I have 30, 40, 50, 100 million dollars, 200 million dollars in the bank. I'm broken. So what actually is the meaning of life? You know what I'm saying? And that's what I discovered from, from, from, from me, being put in jail, you know, it was like, dude, and it wasn't my first time in jail. Did I, I told you, I partied my face off. I, you know, I got, I got in trouble for stealing and I got in trouble. Like, he's just broken this. And so the fire is for you, is like, yeah, that was a fire. The DUI was a fire. Disappointing my mom. Man, that was, dude, like that was a fire. And, but at the same time, there was a fire going on before those moments. And the fire was just like, dude, who am I? What am I supposed to do? Why am I here? What, is this what it's about? When awards? Get on a starting team. Be a star. That's what life is about. And I can tell you star after star after star NFL MLB NBA, WNBA, who they look, they're all stars to us. But like, I know the truth. I know what's going on in their lives. You know what I'm saying? And like, life is tough, man, hurt people, hurt people, broken people, break people. Like, that's what life is. And so for me, the fire is for you is not about me. Yes, I'm telling many of my stories, but it's giving people tools to get through the fires that they're going through right now. Tools, like real tools. Like, how do I do this, man? How do I do this? Like, I had a player one my first year in the in the in the in post sports. And I won't allow Iostrain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm 25 years old or something like that. And, you know, I'm walking in the hallways of an arena. And I'm like, dude, there's Shaq. There's Kobe. They they're on the Lakers and they played the Suns that day. And I was stars, you know, like any I'm like star struck. I'm like, dude, that's I'm 25. I'm like, this is my first time ever doing this. I didn't sleep the night before I was like, this is crazy. And I called Natalie. I went around the hallway. I'm like, dude, Shaq's the biggest dude I've ever seen in my life. Like, I'm literally as big as his leg, you know, let Natalie's my life. And so I'm star struck until like the third game. And we in the NBA, we have chapel before every game. By the way, the NBA is a business. Then I fell as a business. Major League Baseball is a business. The WNBA. It's a business. They're a business multi, you know, million billion dollar businesses, right? I think it's fascinating that they make space for like people to like have have a little devotional. I think it is interesting. I've never heard of this before. I before I heard of you to be quiet on it. I didn't know I didn't know that exist. I didn't either until it, you know, until I got invited to be a part of it. I didn't even know it was a thing. But like, both so for the NBA before every game, one hour before every game, we have a little 15 minute window of chapel and it's both teams come or invited. And, you know, in that moment, we'll talk maybe a verse scripture, but just like, you're getting centered. You're about to go perform. So no matter it's all it's all it's all centering. It's all like, it's centering. It's routine. So hey, I'm my own a company. I'm my own McDonald's. I'm my own Arby's. I'm my own 15 of them. I'm my own 3000 of them, but like, but, but don't, don't miss out on this, this, this kind of power to go, but you know what? I do need, I'd need to center myself because we just go. And then, you know, and then pretty soon, like what you said, we're going and blowing. And then it's like, dude, now like, man, I lost my marriage. I wasn't there for my children's games. And, but man, I made a lot of wealth. But then you wonder what's it for? And then you're wondering what's it for? Thanks for tuning in. If you found this valuable, don't forget to hit that subscribe button so you never miss an episode. And if you want to dive deeper into this conversation, check out the links in the description to watch the full episode. See you in the next one.