Tim Storey - Celebrity Life Coach | The Science Behind Sudden Success

What does miracle mentality mean to you? A miracle mentality to me is having a mentality where you think extra ordinary, uncommon, and not normal. Some people chase success, but others chase meaning. Tim's story is one of the world's most sought after life strategists, spiritual leaders, and inspirational voices. I believe the miracle mentality is innate, think big in small places. In the midst of all the adversity and challenge, they knew that somehow some way that life was not just going to be better, but life could still be magical. Unrelenting disappointment can leave you heart sick, but a sudden good break can turn your life around. No matter how many setbacks you've had, how disappointed you've been, look for the sudden good break. That break is that opportunity. He's counseled world leaders, celebrities, elite athletes, and everyday people, guiding them to unlock purpose, heal wounds, and step into their highest potential. His message isn't just about achievement, it's about transformation and courage when others see fear. The education, conversation, observation is it begins to build your faith that I can do it to. Ego is necessary. God never tries to kill someone's ego. He wants to purify it. Because ego that's not purified is going to get you in a heck of a lot of trouble. So Tim, what does miracle mentality mean to you? I think as you know, a mentality is a mindset, frame of mind, perspective. A miracle mentality to me is having a mentality where you think extra-ordinary, uncommon, and not normal. I think a lot of people have a hard time thinking extra-ordinary, uncommon, not normal. The way that I look at, the way that I look at where people get blocked in life, and I think that you were going to be able to speak to this and tell a couple stories is they look at what their parents accomplished and achieved. They look at what people in their immediate vicinity achieved, and that's their ceiling, and that's their reality. And I want you to tell a very brief sort of origin story where you came from, but you had not the best set of circumstances growing up. So you had the ceiling that a lot of people have. Yes. But you were able to move above and beyond and have this miracle mentality where you thought bigger than what your immediate set of circumstances were. How are you different than most people? So number one, you're correct in the fact of the mentor, the teacher, will constrict a person, sequester a person, and stop them from having a miracle mentality if you're not careful. But I believe that the miracle mentality is innate. I believe that because of the fact that we're made in the image of God, that there is something inside of us that wants to go beyond. So little kids they want to play with, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Superman, they don't want to play with just regular toys. Little girls want a theme party that's unicorn or something that's outlandish. If you take any little kid into a toy store, they're thinking beyond. So I did this research just for this talk that the average Barbie doll is right at about 15 to $25, a Barbie. But there is a Barbie house that is high. I'm going to blow you away as $3,000. So what could happen is a child could go into a toy store and you say to the little girl, okay, I'm going to buy you this Barbie that's $15, $25. But she's like, yeah, that's awesome, but I want the house. That's $3,000. And because you have a miracle mentality that's innate, they're thinking that the parents can buy it. No, but then the question becomes, so what happens? If we are born that way and it's innate, then what happens to us as we grow older and then we lose that. So the studies show that what takes place is that we have this expansion in us that we want to do things different, better and more magical. That's within every person. They see things and they're like, ooh, I want to do something a little different, a little better and a little more magical, a little more extraordinary. And it's very common for maybe an aunt or an uncle or a school teacher or maybe sometimes even religion to try to bring the limitations in. So now that young persons are saying, I guess I can't reach for that. So it's the B-realistic. B-realistic. And if they feel like they are now starting to reach and kind of getting their hands slapped, then it's looked at as rebellion when really it was just God's plan for somebody's life to be spectacular. So if people don't know your origin story, I'm just going to read the set of circumstances that you came from. So you grew up with seven people crammed into a two bedroom apartment in Compton. Your father died in the past way when you were 10, your sister at 12. But even with this set of circumstances, even with all these things that would have removed the miracle and the aspirational from young Tim, you still found a way. So what was the inflection point? What was the thing that even though you don't listen, this is a tough childhood for anybody, what's the inflection point where you think, okay, things aren't perfect, but I'm going to eventually be the Tim story anyways that I become. Is it a person? Is it an event? Is it what is it? I think that all of us have this in us and that is the ability to what I say think big in small places. So because I have traveled, I've been to 82 countries now, I'll talk to people that were raised in a war torn area and they grew up, grew up like waking up to bombs blowing up around them. And I would say to these people, like what was your mindset? And some of these people that have done extremely well would say in the midst of all the adversity and challenge, they knew that somehow some way that life was not just going to be better, but life could still be magical. And so that's how I felt as a child that when my father died, when a man ran a red light and he died. And my mother, who had a six grade education, worked at Winchell's Donuts job, had to raise her children, it did not look good. If you looked at it just through the census, but I never looked at life through just the census. I have this miracle mentality that I did think somehow some way not only am I going to get out, I'm going to find a way to do something that's kind of fantastic. Do you think that you naturally or intuitively see the positive and what I mean by this is I think that most people start that way, like you did research on this, so they do. But then they see the negative, the negative of life in prints in their mind. When things don't work out, it imprints. And then they say the next time, well, I don't know if I can accomplish that thing. I don't know if I can take the risk because I remember the thing that didn't work out. Yes, but I think the only difference is between somebody who is able to achieve this miracle mentality is they see when things work out. And that's what they remember. And it gives them the audacity to take the risk the next time. Is that something that came naturally to you? Do you agree with that? Is that something that came naturally to you? Or I think it says, though you wrote a book on it, it's it's it's perfect what you're saying. So the framework is this is that there's a there's a biblical scripture of verse. It says, unrelenting disappointment. So disappointment means something did not work. So a relationship did not work. A startup company did not work. You try to get through a health situation quicker and it did not work. Unrelenting disappointment can leave you heart sick. That's a proverb. To be heart sick means to be to be ill. The heart is a center of your being. Joy comes from the heart. Peace, faith, goodness. So when somebody is heart sick, this is interesting. You are literally fading in the center. So disappointment causes people to fade in the center of who they are. That's why you could be funny and someone will still not laugh. Something good can happen and they don't even enjoy it because they've been so disappointed. They become heart sick. But then the Bible then says in the same verse, it says, but a sudden good break can turn your life around. So this is where I come in and where I became as open one for you says the original comeback coach is that I teach people, no matter how many setbacks you've had, how disappointed that you've been, look for the sudden good break. That break is that opportunity. How do you recognize that? How do you see that? Not easy. Because what happens is that when you've been disappointed, disappointed, disappointed, you almost start to look for the disappointment. You do 100%. You have that bias for a negative. Right. So let's take two places in the world. One is Seattle, Washington. The other one is Bergen, Norway. Both of these places I've been to a lot because I travel to Scandinavia a lot for different businesses and things. If you go to Bergen, it's such a beautiful place. It's so green, it's gorgeous. It reigns so much that you look for rain. Seattle reigns so much, you start to look for rain. There are people that are watching and listening right now that you have gone through so much disappointment. You are already signing up for disappointment that has not even come. I think that that's the majority of people. Unfortunately, it's I think that there's this air of pessimism around how life has worked out and don't get me wrong. This is what is difficult. People can still be content and things can still be going okay, but you can still default to the negative. Yes. We were just chatting about this, but ultimately when you default to negative, even if things are okay, it's like you are pursuing good, but not great. Like it. Yeah. You are okay with the status quo, because it's comfortable, but it's not exceptional. And I think that it is actually very fair to say that most people live in the status quo in the content with life. Yes. And then you say, well, they will say, well, I don't need more. I don't I don't want to be greedy and I don't want to pursue, but I think that it's not about being greedy. It's about living. It's about when you see the positive. This is something I've noticed in my life, at least. When you see the positive, things come to you and opportunities come to you that you never even would have thought possible. And it's not about being greedy. It's just about opening up your mind to these opportunities. Agree, agree, agree. So I think it's just about being in alignment to the creation of how we were created to be. So it's almost like an iPhone. When a new iPhone comes out, they'll do a lot of promotion on what this new iPhone will do. But studies show that many times people don't even do any of the new things that they can do on it because they're just creatures of habit. So I think that the way God manufactured us is to is to just be brilliant and to create things and to build things and to do things and if we fail to get back up. So I say this. I wrote a book about 20 years ago called utmost living. And I did it with random house. And I say in this book that there's three levels of living almost most and utmost. Almost means not quite. So when you live not quite long enough, as you are saying, you start to become stuck in an almost life. Because again, the relationship almost worked. The startup almost worked. So now you're almost afraid to go for the most. Well, what's the most? The most is the ceiling. So right now we're in your podcast studio. If I was to let go helium balloon, it would go, go, go, go, go. And it would stop at the ceiling. So it depends on how high the ceiling is that you were raised around in that powerful. Very, very. So most, most listeners and those watching your ceilings to dog on low thousand percent. And even when you think, even when you think you're pushing boundaries and you're pushing bear, like when I look at my, I just keep using myself as an example. So I'm doing stuff that my parents never did. Yeah. All right. So my parents, very great careers, very safe careers, working government and moment for university up in Canada. And being entrepreneurial was not in my DNA at all. So I'm already, I'm all, I think this is actually a trap that people get stuck into. They break the ceiling because that's sort of like level one. They break the ceiling of their parents and their and their upbringing. And then they're like, shit, well, I did it. But like, what's next? Agree. Yeah. And then you almost get comfortable at the next plateau. But I think that there's more urgency to escape for a lot of ambitious people, the ceiling that your parents set than the ceiling of the next plateau, which is where I'm at right now. So right now I've broken the plateau of what my parents would have ever have sort of, you know, not to say they ever wanted to do anything that I'm doing. But they never built a business themselves. I did that. Exciting, interesting. Okay. So how do I break through to the next ceiling, the next plateau? So what I would do as a, as a therapist because that's my background. So doctorate in world religion and then study therapy and then became a therapist for now over 30 years. So I call it discovering the hidden you. So within Scott is potential. And some of it is untapped. I guarantee you with everybody. Yes, for sure. Yeah. Definitely for me. So, so, so potential is a possibility, a capability, something that can be drawn from. So let's take for real Williams for a minute because we're both creatives and we can respect what he's done. He's working on music and he's only so good and then he meets his guy named Chad, who's his buddy from school. And then they start to make music together that later on becomes something called the Neptune's. And then they start to meet different people like Teddy Riley, who is also a friend of mine. And they start to create music. And so for all finds, okay, man, I'm pretty good at this producing. And then people start saying, but you could also sing. You should do a solo album. So now he's a producer. Then he's a solo guy. Then he means Hans Zimmer. And he starts scoring big movies. Then he starts getting into fashion and he creates billionaires boys club shirts, shoes hats. Now he's doing all that. And he's ahead of Louis Vuitton men. You know what that is? He had untapped potential. He discovered that potential. And he took it from almost most to utmost. So that's what's happening in your life right now. A thousand percent for people to and you know this for all story. So maybe you know how this worked out for him. But what was the first step in him going on that utmost journey? What I'm trying to figure out is do you just start taking massive action, massive risk, doing shit that scares you, jumping into this project, that project, this joint venture, very tacit or do you figure out your north star? And maybe there's an exercise to figure that out. Then you pursue that aggressive. I think you can handle this teaching better than most because I think that this is the this is the way to build that's better. That will last longer rather than just jumping off a damn cliff. There's three ways we learn education, conversation and observation. To educate somebody on a specific area like the fact that some people used to be afraid of AI and some people still are, we can go and get educated to where if we just mean you just dove into AI and understanding AI for six months, all of a sudden Scott, me and you could just be having some amazing conversations and now we start to build our faith in that area. So that's through education. We also grow through conversation and that's one reason your podcast is doing so well because you're having conversations with people and now those listening and watching right now, they become warriors into these conversations that they could not do 50 years ago. You agree? 1000%. So education, conversation, but here's one of the greatest ways, observation. When we can watch somebody even if it's from afar and you go, oh my god, look at that lady pulled off or look at that man pulled off or look at this kid invented, look at this person created through education, conversation, observation, what it does is it begins to build your faith that I can do it to, that I can do it to. And that's what happened to Tim's story. Coming out of the inner city, lower income, we could not afford much. And then what? Look at my life now, becomes a life coach to the stars had my own office on can and driving Beverly Hills when I was a young guy. I mean, it wasn't by accident. It was education, conversation, observation. Now to play devil's advocate, actually not devil's advocate because that's the wrong word. But I think that we are in an age where if somebody has bought into the idea of learning and upscaling themselves and surrounding them to other people that have done it before, we are almost like over indexing on knowledge accumulation and observation and education. And we don't actually take action. I know people that will listen to this podcast all day, every day, and they never do anything. They'll go read every single book. They'll go listen to you on stage, out of spy or any other places you speak. And they don't do anything. And that's also very frustrating because I want them to consume the content. I want them to listen to the podcast. I want them to go to you on stage. But why do people take step one and don't take step two, which is massive action? Okay. So I think I have the answer. So I remember I was 20 years of age and I was in a I was in a certain country and I was there speaking at only 20 years of age. And these guys were walking up this big cliff and then they're going to jump off this very high cliff into this beautiful ocean. So I'm watching these guys do it. I'm like, every guy I watched did not build my faith. I was like, these dudes, doesn't matter how many jump off doesn't make me want to jump off. Right. So I remember turning to say, I'm going back down the cliff because this is I can't do it like I'm frozen. So as I'm doing this, this white guy who happens to be from California and we're in a whole different country comes rolling up. He goes, are you American? I go, yeah, he goes, have you jumped yet? I go, no, I said, to be honest with you, I'm going down because I'm kind of afraid to jump. He goes, you're afraid to jump because come here. Just come up here and stand with me. And he goes, there's nothing down there. There's no rocks. There's no nothing. It's just exhilaration. He said, so just come a little closer. As I get a little closer and he takes my arm and he jumps with me. His arm with my arm. I never met this dude. My God. And I'm gone. I'm just, I'm just with him, but I'm linked. And as I'm going down, it was not a feeling of being ticked at the guy for making me jump. I felt like this brotherhood of like what the crap. So I come up from the water with joy. And he goes like this. He goes like this. He high-fives me and goes, F and exhilarating, right? How awesome is that? That's amazing. Yes. He did not give me a chance to go back down. We're our own worst enemy. Yes. Yeah. We get in our own heads about it. Yeah, I was beginning to intimidate my own self. Yeah. Yeah. And talk myself out of it. You would have thought by watching more people jump that I would build my faith, but no, it got me more nervous because some guys were jumping awkwardly and then it looked like they were down there too long. But this guy, he had done it so many times and he knew he knew that I had it in me. So I think he read me quickly as like a happy, go lucky guy. He's like, come here happy, go lucky guy. And the next thing I was, we were jumping. So part of the the idea of jumping is guys at your stage of life, okay? Because you're still young, but yet you're still mature. You are called to help people jump. And this is what I do. I help people jump. I help people jump. And then how cool is it when we're underneath and I come up like I had this joy goes effing, exhilarating. I love this because we we psych ourselves out. We psych ourselves out. And I think that that's why social media is a blessing and a curse because we get front row access to all these incredible people and incredible stories. But that doesn't change our identity. So our identity can still be I know all the tactics, I know all the strategies, but am I an entrepreneur? Am I somebody that can be married for 50 years? 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That's NetSuite.com slash Scott Clary. NetSuite.com slash Scott Clary. I have a belief that most people want to help individuals that are earlier on in their journey. Most entrepreneurs that I know, they love helping people that are a little bit earlier on. But I don't know if they always know how to do it. I don't know if they always know how to be influential, how to become a partner that gets that person to jump. I think they can just speak knowledge and wisdom, but like we just figured out it doesn't always help the person get to where they want to go and take the action. Right. You know how to be influential. You know how to change people's lives. What's something that you do that again, you came from inner city, Compton, you can speak to people that have built billion dollar businesses, people that are making 60 grand a year, people that are just laid off and have you can speak to all of them. So what's the through line and influence if you want to help somebody? Okay, so that is that's a great question. So I have become a master of onboarding people into a way of thinking. So what what happens many times if somebody goes to work for a company, they're not properly onboarded. This is the history of the company. This is who founded the company. This is the white paper, the mission statement of the company that was written 45 years ago. So that person can then start to understand that company. So recently my mother wanted Chick-fil-A, okay. She's 94. She's want to Chick-fil-A. So I was going through the Chick-fil-A drive-through and I see these happy kids. It was very crowded, Southern California, sunny day. So as this one super young happy kid, I said, when you got onboarded to Chick-fil-A, what was the process in you learning? He said, oh, well they take you through these videos and then they take you through the history and they teach you about the founders. He's telling me all these things. So then I started to do more research on this. So they really helped the young people understand what Chick-fil-A is all about. So when they start to work for Chick-fil-A, they feel like they're part of it. We have to do the same thing for people in life. Give them the backstory. Give them what it took to be Scott Clary. Give them what it took to go from Canada to America. Give them the setback to the comeback. Don't you love this? I do. I do. So it's so ingrained in you that now you're caught up with the cause. So most people are not caught up with the cause. I am. I would say that most companies have zero employees that are caught up with the cause. You're right. I agree. That's why you can go into some really nice stores and you'll say, can you tell me where the men's department is? And it's a nice store and they'll go like this. Yeah. Where's that? Instead of saying, because they're not doing anything, he's just talking to another employee that happened to me two weeks ago. Why couldn't he just say, hey, you know, you look like a sharp guy. Follow me. Because where the men's section was was a little bit hidden, but he could have walked me right. 100% to it. Listen, this is a very useful tool and I don't think people understand how important it is to get people to buy into the cause. I don't think people pay it any attention at all. I'm thinking about my own content and how my content really started to take off when I started to get my audience to buy into the cause, meaning I start talking about things that are going on in my life. So it's the same thing if you want to create compelling content and you want to and you want people to become fans and not just fans, but like just like live and breathe and love what you do. It's the same thing if you're hiring people to same thing for mentoring somebody. It's like they have to understand your journey. They have to understand all the stuff you went through and all the good and the bad that you are before they can trust and truly listen to you. Yes. I agree. And that's part of the missing element of life in the time that we're living in is that storytelling has always been part of history. I do a lot with indigenous people. In fact, with the Cronation, I've been adopted in the Cronation in Montana for like 26 years of work that I've done there, been given a name, been given land, everything. But in the Cronation, part of it is storytelling of the ancestors that have come before and the battles that they fought and why you were now living on this land because somebody paid the price. The artist storytelling is really missing in this world too, where you're at Thanksgiving and you want to hear your grandmother seem like she's almost over talking. And because we a lot of young people more want to be on their phone or like hurry up, let's get this Thanksgiving over. But what you could maybe really hear and listen and learn from your grandmother or your grandfather and these amazing stories. So I am one that I have really grown and been built of amazing stories. I can tell because every time you answer a question, you have a great story that just it just brings it home. It gives it gives it a gives the answer life. Like I remember all of your answers because you tell a story around it. Can I give you an example? Please. When I started to come into Beverly Hills as a therapist in a life coach, I was only in my 20s. So I'll be sitting with guys like Charlton Heston, Jack Lemmon, Walter Mathau. These guys were my friends. And one night I'm out to dinner with the Tony Curtis. And so I said, what was Marilyn Monroe like? Because he did a movie called Some Like It Hot with Marilyn Monroe. And he said, because of your background of going to seminary, I'm not going to give you all the stories. But he goes, but I will give you one good one. And Tony Curtis was such a great storyteller. We're in Spagoza, Beverly Hills. I'm in my late 20s. He had me like this and Palm moves hands. And I thought, oh my gosh, through that one story that he told on Marilyn Monroe, he took me right in the moment of her life, their connection, that movie. But the power of storytelling can really get within the fabric of our system to where we don't forget something. There's such power in it. It's such a good leadership tool. I mean, I don't think that I don't think you can truly max out your life, meaning if you want to have the best possible relationships with your kids, with your spouse, if you want to have the best possible career or business that you've built, if you want, even the, even the other parts of your life, spirituality, health, wellness, you have to tell yourself a story about why this is important to you. Because if you forget your own story, you're not going to remember the importance of the thing. You have to tell yourself a story about why is it important to be faithful to your spouse? Why is it important to sacrifice a lot for your children? Why is it important that you're building this company? Again, year three, it's not going the way you wanted to. You're not making the money you wanted to. Maybe you should just go get a job again. What's the story? And I think people don't understand the power of stories in helping them achieve the most in their own life. I really like that. I just thought of this right now. I think that people, that is so powerful. I read a lot and I listen a lot. That's a brilliant idea. Because what happens when you continue to remember your own story and your life in your own story as it is unfolding, it helps you to stay in alignment to your authenticity of who Scott really is from Toronto, Canada. Does that make sense? A thousand percent. When you start to think about your grandparents and your parents and the price they paid and your your buddies from elementary school and junior high school and your first love, all those things have brought us to this moment today in your studio to where you are now. But it also keeps Scott in alignment as this story continues to unfold. So why do you think people lose their own stories? What happens? Is it social media, pressure from what they think they should accomplish, pressure from their friends, their peers, the news, the world, whatever. What caused you to lose your own story? What causes someone? Very raw, real example. Thank God this is not my life. But say you were married for 30 years and you cheat on your spouse. That wasn't the story. That wasn't your story when you proposed, when you got married, when you fell in love. What happened? What's the reason why we lose our own stories? I think one of the reasons is that we have guests that come into our story that probably should have never even been in the story. And now the world and technology enables a lot of this. Yeah. So you've now cast the wrong people. Yeah. Very much. Watch how brilliant this is, right? So the guy that did oceans 11, 12, 13 is a guy that I know, Steven Soderbergh. I know most of the cast from those movies for years. So there was only so many cast members. If they had like seven or eight cast members, it made these movies phenomenal. Because the way they had the way they cast the movie. But if you had 22 cast members in oceans 11, it wouldn't have wouldn't have been the same. Okay. Because then George Clooney would not have the same screen time or our Brad Pitt or Scott Constance. I've known him since he was 14 years of age. They would not have had the same screen time. Now watch this. I don't think everyone's supposed to be part of my dog on movie. I don't want to meet everybody. This is a true story about me. Watch someone will say to me, Tim, oh my god, listen to this. There's going to be this party. And so and so is going to show up and I go, seems awesome. And they go, why don't you want to go and I go, I don't really have a need to meet him. This is a true story. I have been like this far away from certain people that are like big movie stars or big at what they do or big sport stars. And had the right to go there because maybe there's only like 15 people at the party. And they were that close and never felt the need to walk across. Now I love meeting people, but not everybody is supposed to be a cast in your story. We need to kick some cast members out. I think that's wise, but but it's very hard. You know, it seems like you know how to filter people in your life so that you stay authentic to the Tim story story. So how do you do the, how do you know if someone's good for you or bad for you? You can't see the million possible opportunities from every single person that you interact with in your life. And I think that this is two things can be true at the same time. That's a very important idea for me because the first idea is in life, you should expose yourself to ideas and counterpoints and people because you never know what's going to happen, right? My life has changed since a couple hundred people of sat where you're sitting and it's completely changed everything that I thought could ever happen to me. Yes. In the best way possible. But at the same time, there's other people that will come into my life that have caused friction, caused stress, lost me money, whatever. And yeah, you can have a pretty good barometer for who's good and who's bad or who is well intentioned or who's malicious, but it's almost impossible to be a hundred percent. I agree. So what's your what's your advice as somebody navigate? Because I'm a teacher. So I'm going to give two ease, education and experience, education on what fits us again, back to your core principles, because you're a very core principled guy. I think that the people that we bring in our inner circle, they have to have similar motives. And so both of us have brought people in our lives that did not have similar motives. And we we usually paid for it because their motives were not correct. Does that make sense? Very much so. Okay. So I think the education of like what kind of person am I looking for? What kind of principles do they have? And then the experience in the experience side, I do think that that comes through trial and error at times. Because I would rather error on the side of being loving and trusting and give somebody a chance. And then if they if they burn me, then I go, okay, that didn't feel good, but I learned a lesson. So maybe I move a little slower. So because in in my world, there's a lot of asks, like I would say today, just today alone, I've probably been asked for at least 20 favors. I have no doubt. Yeah. Just today alone. Because I'm in I'm in the world of knowing people. So someone's always asking me to get them to somebody. And a lot of times the motives are, I'm going to just say that's their their motives are whack. And for you that are watching or listening, I know that sounds almost harsh from a guy who's not harsh, but no, their motives are whack because they're not even ready to meet that person to have the experience that they want so badly. Does that make sense? So I'm almost doing them a favor by not introducing them. So I think education and experience, but the the the why's are I yet, because it's not just age, it's it's wisdom in the time frame, the why's are I yet, I let fewer and fewer people into my inside of my life. Indeed is a success story partner. Now if you're hiring, indeed is all you need. 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He's been doing this stuff for over a decade. What I appreciate is that he makes it practical. Like how do you actually systematize creativity? So you're productive, but you're not burning out. So if you like learning from history, understanding how great work gets made and you want something that's easy to listen to, check it out. Listen to create like the greats wherever you get your podcasts. So you believe, and I know you speak about it, rig radical empathy, radical empathy for people. And you are you're also a religious person. And you come from studying religion, practicing religion. So for somebody who is a radically empathetic person, meaning in a non-religious sense, they could just be like a nice person, a people pleaser, whatever it is. How do you couple those two ideas? How do you be radically empathetic? But as you get wiser, you have a stronger filtering mechanism. Yes. So I think I think the best teaching on this that I've seen in the last 20 years is the book Boundaries. And so, you know, someone can love their mother and honor their mother, but not let the mother metal in their marriage. So it's sometimes it's a conversation with your own mother and say, Mom, I love you, but I really can't have you talk against my wife that way. That's just not working for me. That's Boundaries. That's tough for people. Of course, of course it is. So I think that the key is to always be fair, because I'm a teacher, so I'm going to rhyme here, fair, firm, okay, and friendly. But people are afraid to be firm, not me. I will tell you, okay, that's beautiful, but just only come in that far. Boundaries are so important. Before we recorded, we were chatting about the type of content that I get pushed back on. Oh, yeah. And I spoke about a few types of content about accountability and personal responsibility to get pushed back. But another type of content that I get pushed back on is that not everybody has the right to be in every part of your life. And then the first comment is, well, if for example, if you're building a business and you're doing things that your parents have never done before, but they want to give their opinion on it or they want to say, well, are you sure you want to do this? Like, you still have to love them, but you can't let that perspective based on their lived experience so good impact you. And I think the people have a very hard time. It's easy to do this with somebody who burned you or scammed you or was an asshole to it's very hard to do this with your mother, your father, your brother, your wife, your kid. Like, there's some people that they mean well, but their experience and their wisdom comes from their own lived belief, which is not going to benefit you at all. Yes. How do you, how do you mention to sort of just go a level deeper because I think people have a big problem with it's very difficult for people. How do you manage those relationships? Okay, so I'm going to go real powerful on this. I want you to really think this through. They cannot stab you on the back side, like if somebody stabs you in the back, unless you have let them on the inside. It's the inside of people that do the most damage to us. It's the person that was your partner that you thought you could trust. It's a person who was supposed to be handling your money and they mishandled your money. We see this all the time, right? It's it's the the man that you date and you've given four years of your life to him or the woman or the in a marriage or siblings. Okay. So you have to really be careful who you let in your inside because those are the people that can cause either the most strength or the most damage and really think this through. It it goes all the way back to biblical days. Cain and Abel, it was jealousy. Jonathan and David, it was goodness. So they helped each other out. Joseph and his brothers, his brothers wanted to kill him. So there was damage. So in the Bible, you see good relationships, lifting someone up, the wrong toxic relationships, damaging and almost destroying people. There are so many people watching right now, we're having a moment. You're watching, you're listening to us and you are damn damaged because you let the wrong people on the inside and they stabbed you on the backside. So what do you then need to do? You need to recognize it. Number one, you need to recognize it. And you need to learn to forgive yourself for letting that person are those persons in either singular or plural. And then you need to find a way to just release that person from your life, from your soul. And now try to get even. But just say that was a life experience that hurt like hell. But I release that life experience. And that will give you the freedom to move on in more clarity and also in more freedom. Because I think that a lot of people are carrying a lot of weight from the wounds of the past. What are the traits of the high performers? But also what do high performers have the most trouble with? I think one of the traits of the high performer is they have a revelation of something. A revelation of being a really good filmmaker, like a Martin Scorsese. Is this the secret sauce of that person? Or 100%. I think to have a revelation of something that you're going to do in life is a secret sauce to either it's Martin Scorsese or let's say a great designer like Ralph Lauren. Even if you just watch a documentary, if you've never met these people, you'll see that there was an aha moment as Oprah says. There was a revelation like if we dug deep into you, there was a time in your life when you were in Canada and you said to yourself, talk on it. I think I'm going to do something big in life. You may not have ever said it to anybody. You thought it. You thought it. It was a revelation. It was an aha moment. So I think that the common denominator that I see from the greatest artist to the greatest musicians to the greatest entrepreneurs is there was a aha moment revelation where they said, this is wild. But I think I think something big is going to happen in my life. But then they went after it and then they went after it and then they went after it. They took the steps. What's the thing they have the most trouble with? Well, the steps, the steps were quick before the trouble. The steps. The steps are you have to sit and learn. So Scott had to sit and learn and then you stand in what you learned and then you walk in what you've been learning and then you start to run in what you're learning. This is you and your podcast. Now you're running. That's a position of passion. And then some of us get the sore and you're like, holy crap. How dope was that? That's though. I love it. Yes. But it starts with the revelation. It starts with the revelation. You have to sit. Yeah. Revelation, education, watch. Then you stand in it. Then you walk it out. That's the daily walk. That's the persistence. That's the routine. That's the discipline that both of us have, right? And then you find yourself running with passion and you stay in that passion because it feels good. And then life picks you up and you start to soar. But it takes you to face places and spaces that you never even thought that you could get to. I still want to understand what they have trouble with because that's an interesting concept and everybody asks what they're good at but not what they're bad at. But one more thought on this idea, when you have that revelation, is that when you are subconsciously saying this is my identity or is identity formed after you take action? I think that I think the identity of a person of a human being as I work with people for all these decades is something that is not usually like, aha, this is who I am, and this is my purpose, this is my meaning, this is what's going to make me significant. I think it's more discovered. You start to discover your identity, okay? But you asked me earlier about the challenge to what we do. I call it the opposition to the mission. The opposition to the mission will always come from people that do not have a revelation. So if they don't have a revelation, they're wondering why Scott has a revelation. Like, Scott, why are you guys moving from Canada to America? Changing your whole life, going through all the visa process, the ridiculous cost of moving everything to all of it, switching the career, all of it. Yes, like Scott, you had this plan, you're doing great in your business, you have your this and your that and retirement and then you could retire at this age and now you're stepping into the deep because that person does does not have a revelation. So game recognizes game. That's why Snoop Dogg can be friends with Martha Stewart. 100%. They're from two different worlds. Snoop Dogg from Long Beach is a rapper and Martha Stewart's from the East Coast, whole different type of lifestyle, but game recognizes game and that's the beauty of it all, man. I can walk into a conference sometime and you see somebody from like 15 feet away and go, man, we just stare at each other. It's like, I mean, I have ever met him. We may not even speak the same language, but game recognizes game. You asked me a really good question when I was on your show and I'm going to steal this question because I think that I think that this really highlights whatever you think is wrong with the world right now. So you speak to tens of thousands of people on a stage. What's your biggest stage? You've ever been on 85,000 insane. Good job. Amazing. I haven't I haven't done that yet. Already 40, 50, 60,000 a lot of times. Yeah. These are wild numbers. Yeah. You've coached, worked with, I don't even know a lot of people over your career. Yes. What frustrates you the most? What pisses you off when you look at the person that you want to speak to, you want to connect with, you want to change their life? What's frustrating you about them? I think one of the biggest things that frustrates me is people who refuse to develop a gift that was given to them. So that a gift was given, but either you're too lazy or too self entitled to develop the gift. So there's one really attractive person. I won't say if it's male or female came to Beverly Hills and they asked me to connect them to an agent or a manager and they knew some of the big ones that I knew. And I said, are you taking acting classes? And they said, no. I said, well, how come? Because I'm, I'm good already. Because everywhere I go, people just stare at me. And I thought that's interesting. I said, but if I coach you and tell you that you should take acting classes so you can cultivate your craft to get better, would you do it? And they told me to my face, no. I know, I visualized, I'm going to be a star and I'm going to get an Academy Award. Okay. That was a long time ago. They're not a star and they have not got an Academy Award. So they were unwilling to develop the gift that irritates the hell out of me. You, you quote a lot of biblical verses. What does the Bible say about ego? I think that ego is necessary and watch how powerful this is. God never tries to kill someone's ego. He wants to purify it. Interesting. Because sometimes it's the ego that says no cancer. I'm not, I'm not dying. I got three kids. So he doesn't want to kill it, but he doesn't want to purify it. Because ego that's not purified is going to get you in a heck of a lot of trouble. And so I want you as a younger guy than me to have like strength and fortitude and faith in yourself and believe you could tell me anything, you could tell me like Tim in five years, I see myself running this empire. That's not going to scare me. Good, good, do it. That's your cause. But while you're going, just keep your ego pure. And how do you do that? You do that by staying in alignment to your creator. As you draw near to him, he draws near to you. Okay. And as you draw near to God, his character is just come on you. So I don't get off on myself. I'm sitting in your podcast studio with no shoes on. I know. I've told you to put the shoes on, but you won't do it, but no. Right. And you feel my vibe. Like someone asked me, I did a seminar yesterday. There was really like a really great situation, AI people, people that do well, a lot of money, like Tim's story, like what's your next project that go right now? I'm just in Arizona. I saw that on your stories. And I'm really not even joking. Like I'm serious. Like right now, like what a privilege should be going at it with you. I'm in the moment. I'm fully present, fully feeling fully alive. I've brought on a couple of religious leaders onto this show. And we always try and figure out I feel like society has become much more secular. And I think that there's a lot of wisdom in religion. And it doesn't matter which one you subscribe to. There's a lot of religion that I think people are losing by becoming more secular. And I get concerned that people, this is actually a Patrick Bed David line that I love. He says, if you don't have God, you replace God with another God, which could be a variety of negative influence. Besides that one particular idea, what are some, even if you aren't religious, what are some biblical principles that you see to be absolutely valid and true that we are losing sight of because we are becoming more secular as a society that we really cannot lose? So number one, I love Patrick Bed David. We've been friends I think 25 years. I will say that I don't blame people for not being religious because I think some of the people that advertise religion, some of the leaders of religion, we see so much ego that's out of control. And I feel like a lot of religion feels like an MLM, like a multi-level marketing scaling thing. Unless of a thing to improve your life. 100%. So I think that there needs to be a shifting in the way a lot of religion is done where because Jesus said I came not to be served like to be the man, but I came to serve. So I think the greatest act of a human is his servanthood. So when you look at Mother Teresa, she had a job, her job, but she was a teacher. But she heard the cries of the orphans. And she decided to listen to the cries of the orphans because they were crying because they didn't have food. It wasn't just that they didn't have a place to stay, but they were hungry. I think people in the society are so busy just trying to get what's theirs. They don't hear the cries of the hurting. So that's where I'm at with society. I think that people are so hungry to get theirs that you're not paying attention to your, your mother is crying in her soul because she's maybe aging or something's going on in her life or your father is feeling displaced or misplaced because he retired or you're seen people in CVS and you just walk by them saying hello or you're on a walk and you don't just wave your hand. And maybe that person that you walk by, maybe you're the only interaction that human being will have for the whole day. And so I think that one of the things that we need to do that is a very spiritual thing. And that is to listen to the cries of people who are not in a place that we might be in. Maybe you're feeling so blessed. Maybe your life is so amazing. So congratulations, but there's a lot of people that are crying out for help. Beautifully said. Yeah, we are more connected than ever before, but we're more isolated and more self-serving than ever before too. Yes, yes. And I think that that is spirituality of connection, connection and not just hearing people's cries, but also celebrating with people's success. So I am that guy, you know, I'm glad that all my buddies are doing so well. And some of these guys, I mean, I thought I had great houses. Some of these guys houses are just ridiculous how big their houses are and all the stuff they have. I have not one time ever been jealous of one of my friends for what they have. I'm really like, congratulations, like you worked hard to get there. I don't want to make an assumption, but I feel as though I think that it is a behavior trained by social media that we do not congratulate somebody who does better than us, but we look at them with resentment. Even though I don't even think that that success, especially if it's displayed on social media is even true and authentic success, but I feel like we look at people that are doing better than us with resentment. And I feel like that can actually impact and impede our own success and our own happiness, which it does. You have an opinion on that. Why that may be the case, why you operate so differently than many other people who would look at somebody who is rich and successful and say, well, I wish I had that. They don't deserve that. They exploited somebody. Like, how do you reframe? This is a big question. It's a very deep, heavy question. No, I can go there. How do you reframe your relationship with other people with the world so that you can just sort of, I don't even know how to say without sounding stupid, just like vibrate at a higher level. Yeah. But I think you said that well. So I think it's it's it's almost like the proper diet, new nutrition that comes into one's body that you really have to pay attention to what you are bringing into yourself. And I call it the eye gate in the ear gate. So I constantly watch what I'm watching. And I watch what I listen to. So I don't just scroll scroll scroll because I'm getting too many images that are not going to be good for even me. And I really watch what I hear even if somebody's gossiping about somebody or saying something very negative. So you have your your eye gate in your ear gate. So you have to learn to guard your eye gate what you see in your ear gate, what you listen to. Because what happens is it begins to come into you. And you start to believe that and then act that that out. But if I am reading the right things about servanthood, gratitude, right? Being authentic, walking in love, leading with love, which is my new movement called lead with love. If I am reading those things and hearing those things, all of a sudden I'm acting out that way. I think the being aware of it is the first step because yes, agree. We are the the result of you know, billion and trillion dollar social media mechanisms that are designed by very smart people to just get a reaction out of us all the time and to make us angry because that keeps our attention. And I think that when you realize that you are the product of social media and you are the product of news and you are the product of people that that make money off of you hating other people, then you can start to start to heal your relationship. I'll give you one story as we wind down is that I came into L.A. airport and I saw a comedian that I had recognized and we were a baggage claim and nice looking guy, white guy, comedian. And I went up to him, I said, hi, my name is Tim Story and we have a mutual friend and I named a friend and I'll never forget that he just kind of just went like this and he goes, that's great, that's great. And then I tried to talk him a little more. I said, are you here to do a show and he goes, yeah, yeah. So I walked away and I thought to myself, I think he's going through something because that was really odd. I think the average person who doesn't work with people would have really got ticked off and put off, right? But I went to the other side to get my bag and just thought, I think he's going through something. So I'm not trying to bump people out at the end of the podcast but I will say this. He took his life two months later, two months later, like 60 days later he died and is a popular comedian. He died two months later. So who knows what dog on head space he was in? That's deep, right? That's deep. So you never know what someone else knows. You never know. That's why we got to lead with love. We got to lead with empathy. You have to do your best to look past people's false flaws and failures because you never know the pain that they might be in. Where can people connect with you? Where do you want to send them? Social, your podcasts? Yeah, I think the best place to go, this is like TimStory.com, STOREY. That's like all things TimStory. The podcast is called the Miracle Mentality and I like the kind of guests that we're getting talking about mindset and talking about so many other things in life. And then I'm excited about something that we do called lead with love where I do these mini masterminds around the world. And we bring in like 50 people at one time and I work on the eight areas of their life. But all that is talked about in TimStory.com. I love it. There's so many similarities between our belief system and the content we put out and I just appreciate you for everything you do. I really appreciate for coming on. The last thing I always leave the audience with, you don't have to go deep because you've given us so much value. But just one last thought if you could take all the wisdom that you've learned over your life, over all the people you've worked with and you tell your 20 year old self one thing, one lesson. You can think of it a couple of ways. Yeah. Less you tell your 20 year old self one lesson that you only want to be remembered by. What is the most important lesson? What I would tell my 20 year old self is you're going to be okay because when you are 20, you're constantly wondering about things. So sometimes you're wondering and you're wondering and you're wondering you're wondering and I would say to my 20 year old self, hey little Timmy from Compton, you're going to be okay.