Karin Adoni - Founder of Clean Diet by Karin | Nutrition Expert Says You're Making Health Way Harder Than It Needs to Be

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What is the biggest lie in the food, diet, health industry?

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People still feel there's like a magic thing, a magic pill.

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So it used to be diet pills, now it's GLP-1.

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Just take it and everything will go away.

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What about the disadvantages?

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Does anyone talks about it?

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There's no shortcuts, no free meals in the world.

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Everything comes with a price.

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Today's guest is Karen Adoni, founder of Clean Diet by Karen, and a specialist in healthy lifestyles, emotional eating, and sugar detox.

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After overcoming her own struggles with eating disorders, Karen developed a practical approach centered around nutrition, behavior change, and real whole foods.

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In this conversation, we're diving into the truth about nutrition, weight loss, cravings, and what it really takes to build a healthier lifestyle.

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What does health mean to you?

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I think it's feeling good.

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Wake up in the morning with energy without needing another cup of coffee just to wake up.

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Being active, having good mood.

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All of those things like matter.

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Do you feel like the industry is getting more or less honest?

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I think it's just that truth is not as important anymore.

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It's more the narrative.

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You're like dictating.

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And I think it's so hard to find the truth today.

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And I think we came so far from it.

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So it's almost impossible to know what the truth is now.

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My fitness pal is a success story partner.

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Now, there's this thing that happens when you start paying attention to what you eat.

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And I think we can all agree that we wanna care about our health and our wellness and our nutrition, but more often than not, we just kind of think we eat clean, we think we eat healthy, but we're not really, really paying attention to every single meal and what makes up every single meal.

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But just by paying attention and starting to log and track what you eat, you start making better choices without really trying.

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And that surprised me because when I first started using the MyFitnessPal app, and I've been using it for a while now, it's a nutrition tracking app.

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And I started logging what I was eating.

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It started showing me my macros, which means how much protein, carbs and fats I was getting.

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And then I started to understand why some days I felt good, high energy.

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Some days I felt like garbage because those three things, proteins, carbs, fats, that's what your food is made out of.

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and the balance between them affects everything.

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So MyFitnessPal app truly changed my life when it came to managing my food, which managed and helped everything else.

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Now, on the premium version of the app, it breaks down those numbers by meal.

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So I'm not just seeing one calorie number for the day, I can see what's happening at breakfast, versus lunch, versus dinner, where my protein actually lands, whether I'm eating enough earlier in the day or piling everything on at night.

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And all of a sudden,

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When I'm crashing at 3, 4 p.m., well, I can take a look and see it's not so surprising anymore based on what I ate or what I didn't eat.

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So that's what I mean when I say that MyFitnessPal is a great app for awareness.

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It's not obsessive.

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It's not stressful.

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It's not time-consuming.

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It's actually the opposite.

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Guessing is stressful.

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When you have all the information, the food you eat, your nutrition...

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becomes way easier to keep up with.

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Also, a lot of people stress out that logging food is gonna be very time consuming.

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It's not.

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And if it was annoying, I'd stop.

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But what I love about the app is that they've made it super, super simple.

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They've removed all friction in food logging, right?

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They have the largest food database out there.

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So whatever I'm eating is already in it.

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I can voice logs, so I can just say what I'm eating.

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They have a barcode scanner that handles all the package stuff.

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They have a tool called MealScan, which lets me point my camera at my plate and it breaks down all the macros and then logs it for breakfast, lunch, dinner, whatever.

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And the app remembers my regular meals.

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And I'm really just in and out of the app in seconds.

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And on top of that, it connects with over 40 fitness apps and wearables.

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So my workouts, my nutrition, they're all in one place.

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See, food is the foundation of everything.

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your energy, your sleep, your weight, your recovery, your performance at work, at home.

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And I really believe that when you start to pay attention to what you eat, every single part of your life improves.

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And to be honest, for me, it's the most useful tool because when I see the information, when I see what I'm eating and I feel the effects of having good nutrition and good food at the right time, the decisions on what to eat become obvious.

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Not because someone told me to eat better.

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It's because I have the data.

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And the data makes it super, super easy to stay on track.

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Corinne, what is your most controversial take on food?

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I think one of the things that people like things have changed with the years, you know, ultra processed food became our biggest problem.

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And I think, first of all, the majority of the people maybe don't want to realize that the big food companies and the industries are not looking at our health and our benefit.

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They're looking at how much money they make.

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So a lot of times they don't realize how damaging things are or artificial or how much

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additives they put in it.

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And those things had a side effect.

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Now, in moderation, okay, but it accumulates because we're exposed to so many microplastics, additive, food coloring, air pollution, stress all day long.

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So the fact that you just keep on adding it and adding it and adding it to your system has a load.

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And now we're talking that one out of three Americans are

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will get cancer.

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We're talking about autism numbers that are rising.

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We're talking about autoimmune diseases.

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We're talking about Hashimoto's.

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We're talking about hormonal disruptors.

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We're talking about obesity or type 2 diabetes that became a pandemic almost.

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Like we're talking about almost 30% of the population will have type 2 diabetes by 2050.

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Kids that are 14 years old with type 2 diabetes, our pancreas is supposed to last.

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We've never seen that before.

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The food has an impact.

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The fact that we try to say, oh, it's not true, or the science doesn't show, or it's conspiracy, it's not.

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We see the numbers.

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We see what's going on.

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We see where we've been 20 years ago, 30 years ago, 50 years ago, and where we're at today.

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We've seen places that didn't have so much industrial and ultra processed food.

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And we've seen their longevity and we've seen their lifespan.

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And then all of a sudden the Western food diet is being introduced and you see obesity rises, heart attack rises, cholesterol rises, everything spikes and lifespan gets shorter.

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So it's not a coincidence that this is where we're heading and it just gets worse with the time and the fact that we're normalizing it.

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So...

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A lot of the population woke up.

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They see it clearly.

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They understand that.

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But a lot of people, they don't.

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And they don't understand that also there's a lot of money and lobbyists involved.

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The U.S. is the only place in the world where you have food and pharmaceutical lobbyists in the government lobbying for that.

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What do you think they want to get out of it?

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Money.

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They don't care about your health.

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They want you to put on a pill for the rest of your life.

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They control even the food cafeterias in schools where they made ketchup as a vegetable.

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It's ridiculous.

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And we're not even going now into the hardcore of like microplastics and seeds.

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I'm not even going on that level.

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I'm talking on the very base level.

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Like, yes, sometimes it's like...

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became more, you know, extreme with social media.

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Like people pretend to have this perfect life that they have the EMF and the red light and this and this and ta-da-da-da.

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And yes, it's great.

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And I love it.

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But we need to go back to basics.

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And that's why we forgot.

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We made health so expensive and something that people cannot attain versus, no, just go get back to basics.

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Buy the chicken, buy the rice, buy the tomatoes, buy the real food, buy the frozen vegetables if you can.

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You can buy organic, great.

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You cannot buy organic.

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Okay, it's fine.

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You're not going to die tomorrow from pesticides.

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you know?

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And that's what made it also worse.

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Like we went from one extreme to the other.

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So now people just feel that it's just, it's too much.

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It's unreachable.

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It's overwhelming.

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It's, I think it's, I think it's way too much information.

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I think that also the average health influencer on Instagram, whatever you want to, whatever you want to call them, they do make it seem like you have to be part of this exclusive club to be healthy.

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Exactly.

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And I think that alienates a lot of

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You know, some people that have been on this show that are well-meaning people, but they look at how they live their life and they realize that they barely can pay rent at the end of the month and they don't have four hour morning routines.

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And they just sort of throw, what is it, the baby out with the bathwater.

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They just don't do anything anymore.

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And they just hope that, well, you know, I think a lot of people can't understand.

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Incentives.

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Yes.

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And they they cannot understand how the government could let companies poison them.

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They truly, truly poison them.

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And even the companies probably don't look at it as poison in.

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How do I say it?

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Like they don't they don't think that the the amounts of a thing in their food.

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It's like the dose makes the poison.

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Exactly.

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But in aggregate.

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Over all the things that we do, like you just mentioned, all these different things that affect our lifestyle.

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In aggregate, it compounds.

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But I don't think that people either believe it, understand it, or have like a way to deal with it.

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So they just give up.

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They just give up.

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And then what happens is like I see this now, like we're living longer, but like our lives are not great.

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Our health is horrible, especially, you know, after 80, 90 years old, if you make it that far.

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So.

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This is like a very negative way to start a podcast about what is the... You mentioned things like, you know, buy chicken, you know, buy tomatoes, buy rice, don't eat overly processed foods.

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But is that enough?

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So I'll tell you what.

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One of the studies that I love and I refer still to that was done years ago, it's called the Blue Zones.

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So Blue Zones is like specific area...

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and the entire world that they have the highest and longest longevity, but they also live a very good health.

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So like in their 90s, they go out to the garden and they pick their tomatoes and whatever it is.

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So they found a lot of common things.

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So it's like one in Japan, one in Loma Linda in California, one in Sardinia, one in Greece.

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It's like different areas.

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And one of the things, so every area had is like staff that are particular.

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Surprisingly enough, some of them are even lower protein diet, but I don't want to even talk about the diet per se.

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Just talk about that.

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So first of all, the common theory, not processed food, eating real food, being active, meaning not necessarily go to the gym and just pump like, you know, your weight all day long, which I do as well.

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Don't get me wrong.

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But it's like just moving, getting out, being in the center and having a sense of community.

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having a sense of faith, having a sense of like very family oriented, walking into whatever the supermarket, walking to your friend's house, walking with your kids.

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So they actually found that if you do all of those habits, that really expands and extends your lifespan.

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And not just life, but quality of life too.

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Exactly.

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So, and you've seen, and they even tried, they mimicked it and they took people.

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And I don't remember exactly the numbers, but they took people and they like checked their biological age.

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And then basically biological age is like, I'm like 40 and then my biological age can be 35 or it can be 50.

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It depends how healthy I am and what's like my inside says.

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And then they checked their biological age.

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They put them in a year in this blue zone study that they created everything.

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It's walkable.

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The food was real, a sense of community, sense of faith, you know, being together.

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And they really saw their biological age drops.

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Significantly.

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But it was basics.

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Walking, moving, faith, sense of family, eating real food.

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Nothing crazy.

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Because we go into that like crazy extent, you know, like dim off the light at 6 p.m., put on the glasses, put on this, do like a cold plunge, then go to the sauna, then go and go into the grass and grounders.

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Okay, I get it.

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But just...

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If you walk, if you move, if you remove some of the stress, if you do some habits, if you have a sense of community, those things really matter.

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Also, we don't talk enough about people that are lonely, people that just sit, you know, behind the screens without having that sense of, like, belongings.

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That matters a lot.

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having that social communication, social relationships, not only with your other significant, but also with other people.

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So those things also matter.

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So sometimes just going back to basics without being overwhelmed.

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And I think that's what we lost because every person just now tries to reinvent because they want to go viral.

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Oh, I see what he does.

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Now I'm going to do that.

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And if I'm not going to do that, then I can be healthy.

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Just go back to basics.

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It's simple, but I think that last time I really looked into blue zones, from what I understand, I think that there's not many left.

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No, there are not many left.

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But the reason why is?

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Because industrial and Western-like food took over.

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So even like the blue zones, like the people that know how to live the best, it's like it's so easy to be influenced.

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So I think Akinoha, I don't know if I'm saying it correctly, in Japan was one of those places.

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And then once they introduced the McDonald's and the fast food, they're no longer a blue zone.

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There's another place in Costa Rica that was actually there.

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And then I think they also discovered new blue zones as well.

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But basically they said every blue zone that was introduced into the Western diet and habits is no longer a blue zone, which is kind of...

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Exactly says what we're saying is that go back to basics.

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The more we go with the Western diet, the sicker we get.

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You go back to basics.

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Cool.

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But like these companies will not go away ever.

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So what is the answer?

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How does somebody manage to...

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by the organic, or you said not even organic, but when they feel like just eating healthier is more expensive.

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And they're like, because they're managing all these different things in their life as well.

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Like real life is difficult and fast food is easy.

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And they, you know, maybe, I don't know what's healthy.

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I don't know what's healthy fast food, but they just don't know how to...

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I think, first of all, they made like fast food and junk food, you know, very cheap, but it's not necessarily as cheap as much.

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It's just very easy.

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I think there's something that is missing in the American culture of like not cooking enough at home.

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You notice what's crazy?

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Even some of the, now I have a house, so it's a little bit different.

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And Gina is, I don't think a lot of people know this, but her background is actually as a chef.

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So she's a great cook.

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And whenever we look at like a place to live, a home or whatever.

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She looks at the kitchen and what's the appliance.

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She's like, I need a gas range.

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And she's looking for like the red knobs on the stove.

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I'm with her.

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I hate, I have an induction now in the house that we're here in Miami.

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And it's like, I can't stand it.

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But I don't think that's the norm because when I look at a condo to buy, now they don't even put in full-size stoves because so many people are ordering food.

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This was happening in Toronto in new condo builds.

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So they weren't putting full-size stoves in because they realized that nobody was cooking at home.

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I think it's also got to do with that, like in California, in LA, everyone has gas, the red knobs, everyone has a full on like stove.

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I think it's also something cultural.

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I think something with like apartment or city like New York or Toronto, those kind of areas.

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But overall, I think the concept of like cooking from scratch or actually cooking at home, it's something that is missing, I think, in here.

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So it can be like a chicken breast and rice and frozen green beans and some broccoli or whatever it is can be more economical than going to the next McDonald's or Taco Bell or whatever it is and buying that.

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It's just, yes, maybe it needs more effort or whatever it is, but...

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Short term, maybe it will take you more time, but long term, it will save you more money.

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You'll feel better.

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You'll look better.

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You'll have more energy.

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You'll feel less bloated, less tired, less fatigue after the food.

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So it's not necessarily true.

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Is it more expensive to buy that manuka honey with the active ingredients that organic that was sourced from New Zealand?

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Yes.

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But you don't need to have it.

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It's fine.

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You don't need to get it.

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So what you're saying is there has to be a cultural shift in how we look at food.

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Yeah.

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But also, listen, the health companies, they also make money.

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Let's not get confused.

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There's some brands that are amazing, and their goal is truly amazing.

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to change and to create something different.

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Like there's this great guy, his name is Parker.

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He created a brand for cereal called Lovebird.

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And he used to work in a big cereal brand company and he resigned to create like this amazing brand that actually cares.

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So he will never sell out.

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He makes the highest quality because that's what he wanted to give to his kids and that's what he thinks everyone should give to their kids.

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But the majority of the people, and it's okay, I get it.

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It's business.

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They want the money.

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So also those health brands at some point, they also give you that mindset and they pay a lot for like influencer and social media that you have to have this in order to be healthy.

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And if you won't have it, you won't be healthy.

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I'm now like burning all the ridges.

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There go all the sponsors.

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Maybe we should cut this off.

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Oh my God, it was so funny.

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The other day, I'm never going to get Dasani as a sponsor ever.

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That's like Coke's product because we're just talking so much shit about how bad they taste.

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Yeah, maybe we were like, okay, no, no, you have to have that product.

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I think also when it comes to health brands, there's a difference between truly healthy, however you define that, and things that just market themselves as healthy.

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I just discovered the other day that there's protein Doritos.

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Oh.

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This is the reaction I expect.

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But my point is, my point is, it's a wild concept.

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And this is an extreme, and I don't think that anybody looks at protein Doritos.

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It's just whey with a traditional Dorito.

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But my point is, like, there's a lot of, this is like an extreme.

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There's a lot of brands that market themselves as healthy alternatives that are not actually healthy alternatives.

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Yes.

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So I think that that's another thing that people have no idea how to navigate.

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The average person barely knows what a macroneutrient is.

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Of course.

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So then how do you navigate like a trillion dollar company, not trillion, but a very big company's marketing strategy where they have the smartest people on earth making you think that something's healthy when it isn't?

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I think people also need to do their own research.

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There's great apps also today that help you like scan and understand.

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And I think bottom line, if you want to learn something, you have to do your homework.

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There's no other way around that.

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We became in a world that we just listen to like a, you know, a video on TikTok and we just say, okay, this is the authority and whatever it is.

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Great.

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Let's go see what other people say.

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Let's look at the numbers.

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Let's look at the data.

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Let's look at the facts.

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Truth doesn't matter as much as it anymore.

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Like, sadly.

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What does health mean to you?

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I think health means to you, it's not the lack of having diseases, of like people saying, oh, I went to do my blood work and I'm healthy, or I don't have anything.

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I think it's feeling good, having high energy, wake up in the morning with energy without needing another cup of coffee just to wake up, you know, being active,

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Having good mood, not having those mood swings all the time, not feeling bloated after each meal, having a good healthy weight, your skin and hair looks good.

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All of those things matter.

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It's not just I don't have high cholesterol.

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It's the fact that you feel good.

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I don't think a lot of people understand how it means to actually feel good, to have that high energy energy.

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to have that motivation, to have all of those things also impact our brain, impact our gut microbiome, impact our motivation, impact a lot of things.

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So it's all like combined together.

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So I think health has got to do with feeling at your very best, not all the time, but the majority of the time you're on a good energy, you're feeling good, you're overall in a good mindset.

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And what percentage of that is dictated by what we eat?

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I want to say 60, 70% could be of that because I think mindset, stress is also got to do with that.

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Self-work, you know, working on yourself, whether it's traumas in the past, whether it's like not being a victim of situation, whether it's like we all have a complicated past.

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how we get, you know, pass along that and just saying, okay, you know, that's who we are.

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And I choose to live my own destiny and to say no and to let go of toxic relationships and, you know, to form the future how you want to form it.

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So that's also got to do with that.

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Like, you know, just being very positive, being very, you know, good mindset and doesn't mean happy, happy all the time.

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Just means like more chill, less stress,

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having a better emotional regulation.

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So everything ties up together.

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So tell me a little bit about how you got involved in health and wellness.

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You've made this your entire brand.

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Your content is great.

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I think that...

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The fact that all this content goes viral shows how confused people are about what to buy, what not to buy, what's good for you, what's not good for you.

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But where did you start to get involved in health and wellness?

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So for me, it started from a very personal place.

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I suffered from severe eating disorders growing up.

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Like, I think I remember it at the age of 11 where I can actually understand, like, realize that I have a problem.

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I don't know how many years prior, you know, that problem had developed.

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So I was borderline anorexic most of my teen life.

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I would try any diet on the book.

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The cabbage diet, the apple diet, no eating, no drinking, no this, nothing.

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Like, I was...

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skinny, like probably 30, 40 pounds less than what I am today.

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I would work out like crazy.

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I would take, you know, fat burners, legal, illegal, whatever you can think of, I've done.

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But this was at 11?

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This started at 11 until 21.

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So 10 years, 10 solid years.

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and I tried to hide it, you know, for a very long time, because a part of that type A personality, which is very correlated with anorexia, is also that control.

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So you control, and you hide, and you don't want to show people that you're weak, and you struggle.

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So I was hiding a lot.

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But then...

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You know, that was like a constant struggle.

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And I don't think, I think that people that go through eating disorders all have, and eating disorders for me doesn't need to be anorexic.

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It can be also overweight.

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It can have emotional eating.

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It can have like, I want to say an unhealthy relationship with their food and their body, which the majority of the population has.

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It's just sometimes you go to the extreme.

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I went to the extreme because I'm an extreme person.

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So everything that I've done in my life, I've done extreme.

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And that was also another part of it.

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And I suffered.

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You know, I suffered.

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I abused myself.

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I didn't drink.

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I didn't eat.

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I would step on the scale 20 times a day.

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I would take the scale with me in the car.

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I would have it anywhere that I would go.

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I would spend four hours every day at the gym.

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I would wake up in the morning.

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I run 10K and then just, you know, give myself a glass of water.

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Like anything you can imagine I've done.

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Then later on also came bulimia and throwing out.

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It all got mixed up together.

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Where did this all come from, though?

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Listen, I'm guessing part of my childhood and part of the fact that I always, as a kid, felt very strong emotions and a lot of things that were overwhelming.

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And there's another part in anorexia and emotional eating that's saying that,

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Sometimes something overwhelming.

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Okay, let's put it in something that will be easier.

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You know how sometimes people go through trauma?

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Let's say a sexual trauma.

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I didn't go through that.

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And then a lot of times they turn into either addictions or eating disorders, which is also some sort of an addiction, I want to say.

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Then one of the reasons is because it's too much for them to deal with that trauma.

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So they turn into that.

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It's easier to deal with what did I eat?

442
00:27:49.893 --> 00:27:50.573
What did I do?

443
00:27:50.894 --> 00:27:51.974
How do I look?

444
00:27:52.194 --> 00:27:53.475
Because it's an easier...

445
00:27:54.485 --> 00:27:58.367
emotional burden, I want to say, versus dealing with actually what you're feeling.

446
00:27:58.808 --> 00:28:02.450
So I probably was born with like oversensitivity.

447
00:28:02.570 --> 00:28:04.331
I was overwhelmed with a lot of things.

448
00:28:05.052 --> 00:28:07.113
I was also very stubborn and independent.

449
00:28:07.133 --> 00:28:08.854
So I've done everything my way.

450
00:28:08.974 --> 00:28:10.475
It was my way or the highway.

451
00:28:11.275 --> 00:28:12.576
So I never asked for help.

452
00:28:12.636 --> 00:28:13.537
I never reached out.

453
00:28:13.617 --> 00:28:15.018
I was always doing things myself.

454
00:28:15.078 --> 00:28:17.719
And most likely, I went through a lot of emotional stuff.

455
00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:19.541
And maybe it was too much for me to handle.

456
00:28:19.561 --> 00:28:20.221
And...

457
00:28:20.501 --> 00:28:26.850
And the eating disorder just started slowly and gradually, you know, develop.

458
00:28:27.511 --> 00:28:31.657
And it's also something with my personality because you need to have that personality as well.

459
00:28:32.077 --> 00:28:32.859
And environment.

460
00:28:33.219 --> 00:28:35.622
Environment always like effects, but I think that...

461
00:28:36.831 --> 00:28:41.374
When you have that, you also, you're looking to find that environment to help it grow and develop.

462
00:28:41.394 --> 00:28:49.919
You know, it's like you're looking for that fashion world for those girlfriends that are also obsessed with eating disorders for those magazines, because we're talking about 30 years ago.

463
00:28:50.380 --> 00:28:52.281
I remember the internet just started.

464
00:28:52.361 --> 00:28:55.103
So we had like ProAnna website.

465
00:28:55.243 --> 00:28:56.624
Anna is anorexia.

466
00:28:56.824 --> 00:29:00.546
That's the name of like anorexia for those websites.

467
00:29:00.566 --> 00:29:02.787
It was like dark webs that you used to talk about.

468
00:29:02.807 --> 00:29:03.508
Like, what do you do?

469
00:29:04.690 --> 00:29:04.890
Yeah.

470
00:29:05.351 --> 00:29:05.891
So it's different.

471
00:29:05.911 --> 00:29:06.712
It's not like today.

472
00:29:07.172 --> 00:29:08.293
It was completely different.

473
00:29:10.695 --> 00:29:12.517
So that was like my entire teen life.

474
00:29:12.817 --> 00:29:14.478
But I still graduated from high school.

475
00:29:14.498 --> 00:29:15.839
I still had friends, whatever it is.

476
00:29:15.939 --> 00:29:18.081
I always wanted to stay somewhere.

477
00:29:18.121 --> 00:29:24.226
And I don't want to say in the middle, but not to go to that extreme to now be hospitalized and to give up on my life.

478
00:29:24.246 --> 00:29:27.970
They took me for like day hospitalization very quickly.

479
00:29:28.070 --> 00:29:31.833
I realized that I'm not going to do that, that it's not for me.

480
00:29:32.093 --> 00:29:35.834
You weren't going to go to... That I'm going to do whatever it takes because I don't want to get there.

481
00:29:36.094 --> 00:29:38.235
Because I've seen the girls there and they were...

482
00:29:38.995 --> 00:29:40.935
It was traumatizing for me to see that.

483
00:29:41.355 --> 00:29:44.016
How far were you from being one of those girls?

484
00:29:44.256 --> 00:29:47.237
Probably 10, 20% from getting there.

485
00:29:47.657 --> 00:29:48.457
So I wasn't far.

486
00:29:49.518 --> 00:29:50.458
I needed that push.

487
00:29:51.198 --> 00:29:54.659
But I always loved life more than I loved the disease.

488
00:29:56.158 --> 00:29:57.359
There's a very thin line.

489
00:29:57.459 --> 00:29:58.339
Would you love more?

490
00:29:58.759 --> 00:30:00.720
Does that take over your life or you take over?

491
00:30:00.840 --> 00:30:04.822
Like, does the disease take over your life or you take over control of your life?

492
00:30:04.882 --> 00:30:07.984
And I always was more in control over my life than the disease.

493
00:30:08.004 --> 00:30:11.246
There was always a very thin line that I didn't want to cross.

494
00:30:12.525 --> 00:30:24.730
And I remember before I started like school, like university, college, I went to like travel the world and I went to the Far East with Thailand with one of my good friends back then.

495
00:30:25.590 --> 00:30:36.454
And, you know, it was the first time as an adult that I could enjoy life because all of a sudden there wasn't the scale, there wasn't the fat burners because I went to Thailand.

496
00:30:36.474 --> 00:30:39.915
I'm not going to bring them with me and get arrested for the rest of my life and be thrown into jail.

497
00:30:40.616 --> 00:30:41.636
So this forced you.

498
00:30:42.563 --> 00:30:44.444
So that kind of forced me.

499
00:30:45.624 --> 00:30:47.405
And all of a sudden, I was present.

500
00:30:48.486 --> 00:30:50.667
Now we talk a lot about being present over the phone.

501
00:30:51.127 --> 00:30:54.789
But I was never present because I was always in the gel inside my head.

502
00:30:56.109 --> 00:30:57.050
And it's constant.

503
00:30:57.590 --> 00:30:58.390
And you can't escape.

504
00:30:58.430 --> 00:30:59.651
You can't turn off the phone.

505
00:31:00.291 --> 00:31:02.432
There's no rehab from your own mindset.

506
00:31:04.392 --> 00:31:11.078
So all of a sudden I go to like whatever, a party, I go to the beach, I meet people from all over the world.

507
00:31:11.138 --> 00:31:12.039
It's really nice.

508
00:31:12.099 --> 00:31:15.182
I'm like, you know, having fun and I'm actually present.

509
00:31:15.222 --> 00:31:16.003
I'm enjoying it.

510
00:31:16.043 --> 00:31:19.266
Yes, of course, I was still obsessed, but I didn't.

511
00:31:19.366 --> 00:31:24.391
I was I was taken out of the environment that was really fertilizing that extremeness.

512
00:31:25.532 --> 00:31:27.754
And then when I came back, it all came back.

513
00:31:28.495 --> 00:31:29.315
And that in a day.

514
00:31:30.293 --> 00:31:36.856
The obsession, the scale, the getting on the scale, the going to the gym, the popping up all the pills for fat burners.

515
00:31:36.916 --> 00:31:41.759
And then I said, okay, if this is the life I need to live, then I'm out.

516
00:31:42.099 --> 00:31:42.939
I don't want to live this life.

517
00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:49.182
I remember I said, where will I be a year from today if I continue in this path?

518
00:31:49.862 --> 00:31:52.644
And where will I be 10 years from today continuing this path?

519
00:31:53.939 --> 00:31:58.703
And it was terrifying for me to think, where will I be 10 years from today?

520
00:31:58.823 --> 00:32:00.425
Because it would take me to my 30s.

521
00:32:01.626 --> 00:32:07.070
So then I started healing therapy journey, six, seven long years of like extensive therapy.

522
00:32:07.671 --> 00:32:19.941
And then also I chose to go and to learn the world of nutrition and health and wellness because I felt like it was, I was healing myself first before I was able to help any other person.

523
00:32:19.961 --> 00:32:22.843
I believe you need to go through that yourself in order to help other people.

524
00:32:23.591 --> 00:32:34.882
I think that what you described is extreme, but that, how do I say it, this mental prison of food.

525
00:32:34.902 --> 00:32:35.943
Yeah.

526
00:32:38.906 --> 00:32:41.567
is something that I think a lot of people experience to a degree.

527
00:32:42.287 --> 00:32:43.888
It just manifests in different ways.

528
00:32:44.588 --> 00:32:52.151
But I think about somebody who's always on a diet, always trying to lose some weight, and then they'll be so strict and so stressed about food.

529
00:32:52.211 --> 00:33:00.334
And then finally, they'll be less stressed about food and they'll eat whatever they want, but then they'll look at themselves in the mirror on the scale and they'll hate themselves and they'll go back on this diet.

530
00:33:00.654 --> 00:33:02.595
This is why gyms are busy in January.

531
00:33:03.035 --> 00:33:07.597
I mean, so not at this level, but I experienced this when I was really into bodybuilding.

532
00:33:07.938 --> 00:33:09.639
Okay, yes, I can see that.

533
00:33:09.719 --> 00:33:18.822
Body dysmorphia, you're counting every single macro, you're looking at every single menu before you go out to eat to figure out what you can actually do.

534
00:33:19.682 --> 00:33:20.723
It's so bad.

535
00:33:20.943 --> 00:33:22.423
And it's like it's all-consuming.

536
00:33:22.623 --> 00:33:26.765
Like your whole life is centered around food and what you eat.

537
00:33:26.925 --> 00:33:28.085
And you weigh the food.

538
00:33:28.446 --> 00:33:29.066
Can I do that?

539
00:33:29.126 --> 00:33:37.189
And if you prepare and if you go on competitions, like you need to cut and then you need to build and you have off-season, on-season, cut the water, the cucumbers, the spinach, like I know the world.

540
00:33:37.841 --> 00:33:49.810
I know I never got to this level, but I know bodybuilders that were scared about brushing their teeth because there was too much sodium in the toothpaste so they won't hold extra water when they jump on stage.

541
00:33:50.931 --> 00:33:52.392
It's crazy what food can do to you.

542
00:33:52.952 --> 00:33:54.893
It's absolutely crazy what food can do to you.

543
00:33:55.894 --> 00:33:56.234
Wow.

544
00:33:56.294 --> 00:33:59.497
I didn't know to that extreme what they'll brush their teeth with.

545
00:34:00.045 --> 00:34:04.348
Yeah, but bodybuilding is the very, it's extreme and it's very.

546
00:34:04.429 --> 00:34:06.290
But it's a different manifestation of what you went through.

547
00:34:06.350 --> 00:34:08.011
Yeah, it's different.

548
00:34:08.091 --> 00:34:11.274
Also, it's more defined as healthy, but it's obsession full on.

549
00:34:11.554 --> 00:34:14.296
How do, so this is really the question.

550
00:34:14.316 --> 00:34:17.519
So after going through what you've gone through and healing yourself.

551
00:34:17.579 --> 00:34:18.199
Yeah.

552
00:34:18.339 --> 00:34:22.243
And by the way, still caring about what you eat.

553
00:34:22.643 --> 00:34:24.664
You didn't just not care about what you eat.

554
00:34:25.666 --> 00:34:31.343
How do people, how do people heal like their relationship with food?

555
00:34:32.300 --> 00:34:35.281
I think the first, listen, I'm big on therapy.

556
00:34:35.941 --> 00:34:36.721
Whatever therapy.

557
00:34:36.821 --> 00:34:39.021
A lot of the stuff keeps going back to therapy.

558
00:34:39.382 --> 00:34:43.362
Like the therapy can be, you know, a conventional therapist.

559
00:34:43.542 --> 00:34:46.063
It can be someone more spiritual.

560
00:34:46.183 --> 00:34:53.685
It can be probably a combination of all because you also go through phases and stages where you need different steps to where you're at.

561
00:34:54.425 --> 00:34:58.386
But it's doing a deep dive to deal with your darkest demons.

562
00:34:59.426 --> 00:35:00.166
And it's hard.

563
00:35:01.757 --> 00:35:09.042
Because you discover a lot of things about yourself, how you behaved, what you've done.

564
00:35:10.463 --> 00:35:14.526
You are living in a place where you are unaware of what you're doing.

565
00:35:15.446 --> 00:35:17.708
And I think it's scary.

566
00:35:19.129 --> 00:35:21.971
And not a lot of people are willing to go through that hard work.

567
00:35:22.091 --> 00:35:25.253
I feel like long term, it's the best thing you can do.

568
00:35:25.313 --> 00:35:27.355
Short term, it's a sacrifice.

569
00:35:28.237 --> 00:35:30.478
And for that sacrifice, you need to be willing to do that.

570
00:35:31.218 --> 00:35:36.700
And for me, there was no other way, because I needed to heal myself from within.

571
00:35:37.300 --> 00:35:41.041
And healing, by the way, is always occurring.

572
00:35:41.462 --> 00:35:42.742
It's just, it's not acute anymore.

573
00:35:42.762 --> 00:35:47.784
It's like it's always somewhere, because you always go through a journey of healing and process, we always process stuff.

574
00:35:48.284 --> 00:35:52.785
But to process that eating disorder, I was really, was going to therapy two to three times a week.

575
00:35:53.506 --> 00:35:55.966
So you mentioned before some of the girls from the hospital, they didn't make it.

576
00:35:59.301 --> 00:36:10.077
Have you thought about what was the thing that allowed you to make it when so many people didn't in that same situation?

577
00:36:11.046 --> 00:36:12.667
I always loved life more.

578
00:36:13.507 --> 00:36:16.668
I always had high goals and expectations for myself.

579
00:36:17.268 --> 00:36:21.810
I was raised in a ways of also like self-love and self-appreciation and self-worth.

580
00:36:21.930 --> 00:36:24.230
Funny enough, even though I went through all of this eating disorders.

581
00:36:24.991 --> 00:36:27.852
So I was always, it never crossed my mind.

582
00:36:27.872 --> 00:36:31.153
Like the disease never looked more appealing to me than life.

583
00:36:32.533 --> 00:36:37.975
Like they're willing, sometimes in their mindset, which I understand, you're willing to die.

584
00:36:39.919 --> 00:36:43.022
And not to go through the healing process and to become healthy.

585
00:36:44.243 --> 00:36:46.345
And for me, it was never that.

586
00:36:46.505 --> 00:36:47.606
I never wanted to go there.

587
00:36:47.646 --> 00:36:49.208
For me, that was a complete failure.

588
00:36:49.568 --> 00:36:51.029
And for them, maybe it was a success.

589
00:36:51.830 --> 00:36:53.171
Like, does that make sense?

590
00:36:53.191 --> 00:37:00.057
Like, for me, a failure would be to get hospitalized, to be in the point where I can take control over my life.

591
00:37:00.138 --> 00:37:00.958
And I lost it.

592
00:37:00.998 --> 00:37:01.859
Like, the disease won.

593
00:37:02.340 --> 00:37:02.520
Right.

594
00:37:03.693 --> 00:37:04.414
And I lost.

595
00:37:05.154 --> 00:37:06.875
And I never want to lose in that situation.

596
00:37:06.895 --> 00:37:08.316
And for them, it was the other way around.

597
00:37:08.376 --> 00:37:13.740
They look at it in a way of like, the disease won, but in their mind, they won.

598
00:37:14.761 --> 00:37:15.842
I ask this because...

599
00:37:18.037 --> 00:37:19.798
You're a very ambitious type A person.

600
00:37:20.479 --> 00:37:22.460
A lot of people listen to this podcast are type A.

601
00:37:23.181 --> 00:37:29.186
And they don't all have the same disease that you had to overcome, but they all have an unhealthy obsession with something.

602
00:37:30.407 --> 00:37:34.810
And I guess the question is, how do you let that something not become all-consuming?

603
00:37:35.512 --> 00:37:39.476
I think today I look at it as my superpower.

604
00:37:40.437 --> 00:37:47.803
For me, what I went through and the healing process that I went through is what made me who I am today.

605
00:37:47.903 --> 00:37:49.325
I wouldn't change anything.

606
00:37:50.062 --> 00:37:51.724
Because that's what made me who I am today.

607
00:37:52.245 --> 00:38:03.057
So the struggles that I went through is what made me so strong, more resilient, and also understanding to a lot of life situations.

608
00:38:03.638 --> 00:38:08.803
Because I think if you don't go through struggles, there's a lot of things you miss along the road.

609
00:38:09.812 --> 00:38:18.539
So whether I was treating people, healing people, creating books, writing books, talking, doing lectures, conversation, podcasts, being on social media.

610
00:38:19.020 --> 00:38:22.102
Like I understand what a different person goes through.

611
00:38:22.222 --> 00:38:24.564
I can see that even without them talking.

612
00:38:24.644 --> 00:38:28.367
I can see in their body language how they behave, how they do so.

613
00:38:28.468 --> 00:38:30.489
I think one of the things that once you embrace...

614
00:38:31.590 --> 00:38:36.737
your past, your weaknesses, the struggles that you went through, and you're not trying to hide it.

615
00:38:37.257 --> 00:38:38.599
And to say, no, everything is perfect.

616
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:39.180
No, it's not.

617
00:38:39.761 --> 00:38:41.183
That's what makes you who you are.

618
00:38:41.223 --> 00:38:49.994
And once you embrace it, and also go to therapy or dig a deeper dive into that and understand where it came from, that can be your biggest, you know, strength afterwards.

619
00:38:50.633 --> 00:38:54.515
I think that I've seen this as a pattern that keeps repeating.

620
00:38:54.535 --> 00:39:00.738
Some of the most successful people I know, they take the darkest part of their life and they turn it into what they do for a living.

621
00:39:00.818 --> 00:39:01.259
Exactly.

622
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:03.360
That's very interesting.

623
00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:13.665
Again, I don't ever want to draw a comparison to what you went through, but I'll tell a little bit of my story because you'll understand how I look at what you've done and how you've turned into.

624
00:39:13.785 --> 00:39:17.407
You know, this disease that really had a hold on you into your career.

625
00:39:17.987 --> 00:39:29.012
But ironically, on a much lighter scale, like public speaking and presently presenting in front of the clock, that to me was the scariest thing I could ever do.

626
00:39:30.052 --> 00:39:31.273
And this is what I do for a living now.

627
00:39:32.113 --> 00:39:36.095
But it's just so funny how that weakness, if you lean into it and you overcome it.

628
00:39:37.441 --> 00:39:43.548
The act of overcoming that weakness actually makes you like highly qualified for you to do that as your job.

629
00:39:44.169 --> 00:39:44.910
Exactly.

630
00:39:45.090 --> 00:39:48.474
When you were going through this, at what point did you heal?

631
00:39:48.494 --> 00:39:50.537
At what point did you turn it into an actual career?

632
00:39:51.342 --> 00:39:53.603
So my healing process was gradually.

633
00:39:53.824 --> 00:39:55.184
It's not like one day.

634
00:39:55.305 --> 00:39:57.286
It's important for people to listen to that.

635
00:39:57.306 --> 00:39:59.027
It doesn't go away overnight.

636
00:39:59.127 --> 00:40:00.768
You go through steps and stages.

637
00:40:00.828 --> 00:40:03.309
And every stage you go through, you can go back.

638
00:40:03.409 --> 00:40:06.832
Because if you really went through the process, you can go back being blind.

639
00:40:06.852 --> 00:40:08.773
Because now you see things differently.

640
00:40:09.453 --> 00:40:13.336
So I think like the first two years were the hardest for me.

641
00:40:13.516 --> 00:40:15.677
The first two to three years were the hardest for me.

642
00:40:16.017 --> 00:40:17.238
And then I was still in school.

643
00:40:18.653 --> 00:40:23.456
So a lot of those downs and those harsh moments came through when I was still in school.

644
00:40:23.816 --> 00:40:30.761
And I think around 24, it really started to open up and I really started to see things differently.

645
00:40:31.622 --> 00:40:36.405
And then slowly and gradually in every step of my life, another breakthrough happened.

646
00:40:37.285 --> 00:40:44.330
Mentally, emotionally, and then I was also able to treat and heal people on a different level.

647
00:40:45.351 --> 00:40:47.172
Because for me, just telling you what to eat...

648
00:40:48.538 --> 00:40:49.859
was never the hard part.

649
00:40:49.879 --> 00:40:53.761
That's the easy part, is how do I make you commit to yourself?

650
00:40:53.942 --> 00:41:02.947
How do I make you go through that mindset that you understand what are the limiting beliefs that are stopping you to reach to your actual goals and your best self?

651
00:41:04.929 --> 00:41:10.152
And a lot of people, by the way, are very successful in many aspects in their life and food is their weakest spot.

652
00:41:12.303 --> 00:41:15.785
Because it's so hard because you need to say no and you need to be disciplined all the time.

653
00:41:16.265 --> 00:41:18.086
They're like, I'm successful in my career.

654
00:41:18.126 --> 00:41:20.028
I'm successful with my family.

655
00:41:20.688 --> 00:41:21.809
I can't overtake the food.

656
00:41:23.029 --> 00:41:31.995
And we see that's why GLP now is also so on the rise because it's easier to like hold those, you know, I want to say cravings or whatever it is.

657
00:41:33.632 --> 00:41:39.595
For me, it was once I learned enough about myself, I went through all of those struggles.

658
00:41:39.655 --> 00:41:50.160
I was in every point, the low, the high, the middle, the overweight, the underweight, the eating, not eating, the overeating, the everything that I can actually understand where you're at.

659
00:41:50.200 --> 00:41:51.721
Because I didn't only study it.

660
00:41:52.101 --> 00:41:52.921
I also went through it.

661
00:41:53.381 --> 00:41:56.983
So I come from the educational part of it, but I come from the experience part of it.

662
00:41:57.083 --> 00:41:58.764
So I understand myself.

663
00:41:58.944 --> 00:42:08.853
what you're going through, and I need to find those pain points, what is holding you back to create that mind shift to start doing that change.

664
00:42:09.434 --> 00:42:15.219
And slowly and gradually, I would touch in those places until we get you to the point where you own it.

665
00:42:15.820 --> 00:42:20.463
Because for me, I don't want to own it because then you'll be dependent on me for the rest of your life.

666
00:42:20.663 --> 00:42:33.592
I want to teach you how to own it yourself so you'll become your own nutritionist, your own health, you know, whatever, you know, I want to say professional because also you know your body best.

667
00:42:35.791 --> 00:42:41.634
So I need to teach you how to be attentive to your body, how to break those automatic habits that you have.

668
00:42:42.515 --> 00:42:44.236
What are the things that you tell to yourself?

669
00:42:44.256 --> 00:42:44.957
What are the no's?

670
00:42:44.997 --> 00:42:45.957
What are the negativity?

671
00:42:46.357 --> 00:42:50.580
What is the mindset you give to yourself every single morning and how do we break those?

672
00:42:51.321 --> 00:42:54.303
And then we understand where the food comes from.

673
00:42:54.763 --> 00:42:56.404
Food is 20% of the situation.

674
00:42:56.504 --> 00:42:57.185
It's the easy part.

675
00:42:57.365 --> 00:42:59.526
To teach you what to eat, I can do in a few sessions.

676
00:43:00.267 --> 00:43:03.949
To make you actually do it, that's the hard part.

677
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Why do people have such a hard time understanding how not...

733
00:46:27.147 --> 00:46:34.531
what to eat, but how to have self-control, how to focus on your health and wellness goals.

734
00:46:34.671 --> 00:46:43.535
Why, when somebody is successful in all these other hard things they do in their life, this is the one thing that they just can't get a handle on?

735
00:46:44.616 --> 00:46:49.859
First of all, we live in a world that really doesn't encourage it.

736
00:46:51.112 --> 00:46:54.954
You know, it's like even to the fact that it's like, oh, you're not eating gluten.

737
00:46:55.114 --> 00:46:56.135
Oh, you're not eating out.

738
00:46:56.255 --> 00:46:57.455
Oh, you're not eating sweets.

739
00:46:57.475 --> 00:47:01.938
It's like it's a conversation versus like good for you that you take really good care of your health.

740
00:47:02.018 --> 00:47:03.558
You know, it's like we're on the other way.

741
00:47:03.598 --> 00:47:06.400
Yes, there's a trend now, but we're still in the minority of the trend.

742
00:47:07.681 --> 00:47:09.161
We're like the little part of it.

743
00:47:09.241 --> 00:47:09.742
We're like the 10%.

744
00:47:11.070 --> 00:47:22.193
And I think, first of all, from the moment we were born, we're being fed with like ultra processed food, pharmaceutical, a lot of things that really change, you know, our epigenetics.

745
00:47:22.334 --> 00:47:26.695
Basically we have our genetics and epigenetics is that basically how our genes are being expressed.

746
00:47:27.435 --> 00:47:30.017
It changes our hormones.

747
00:47:30.138 --> 00:47:31.479
It changes our gut microbiome.

748
00:47:31.499 --> 00:47:33.420
So all of a sudden, it's harder.

749
00:47:33.500 --> 00:47:34.782
Our body is not balanced.

750
00:47:35.482 --> 00:47:37.304
So first of all, physically, we're not balanced.

751
00:47:37.324 --> 00:47:38.545
We're not consuming enough protein.

752
00:47:38.565 --> 00:47:39.526
We're not eating enough food.

753
00:47:39.566 --> 00:47:41.367
We go into all kinds of different diets.

754
00:47:41.728 --> 00:47:44.890
Do the intermediate fasting, do the carnivore, do the fan.

755
00:47:44.930 --> 00:47:46.412
There were so many diets along the way.

756
00:47:47.859 --> 00:47:52.888
Like now we're living in the era of like, you know, the carnivore or the meat diet or whatever it is.

757
00:47:52.908 --> 00:47:57.055
But those eras have been here since I can remember myself.

758
00:47:57.095 --> 00:48:00.582
It's just it changes the name and the format of the diet.

759
00:48:01.368 --> 00:48:05.649
So I think for a lot of people, it's like all of a sudden you need to be disciplined 24-7.

760
00:48:05.689 --> 00:48:08.629
And they're like, I'm disciplined in this and I'm disciplined in this and I'm disciplined in this.

761
00:48:08.669 --> 00:48:16.771
And this is how they treat themselves with self-love, with emotional eating, with dealing with a lot of situation.

762
00:48:16.911 --> 00:48:22.492
And it's hard because it's next to you 24-7 and you go to the market and it's next to you and you go to somewhere and you're sad.

763
00:48:22.512 --> 00:48:25.253
You eat, you're happy, you eat, you celebrate, you eat, you're depressed, you eat.

764
00:48:25.353 --> 00:48:26.213
Everything you do, you eat.

765
00:48:26.713 --> 00:48:32.798
And and like so what people celebrate all the career achievement or the family achievement.

766
00:48:34.780 --> 00:48:37.442
Like nobody's celebrating when you go on a diet.

767
00:48:37.722 --> 00:48:37.943
No.

768
00:48:38.863 --> 00:48:39.023
No.

769
00:48:39.224 --> 00:48:42.686
In fact, in fact, you're now boring and you know, they're not.

770
00:48:42.707 --> 00:48:43.887
Oh, you're not out.

771
00:48:43.908 --> 00:48:44.728
We can go out with you.

772
00:48:44.748 --> 00:48:45.789
It's not fun anymore.

773
00:48:46.730 --> 00:48:46.990
Right.

774
00:48:47.030 --> 00:48:47.811
So everything else.

775
00:48:47.971 --> 00:48:48.431
I'm fine.

776
00:48:48.451 --> 00:48:50.413
You can still go out with me and I'll say no to some things.

777
00:48:50.901 --> 00:48:52.142
But that's not what people think.

778
00:48:52.162 --> 00:48:53.562
They think, oh, I'm going to be like a bummer.

779
00:48:53.842 --> 00:48:54.983
But my friends don't support it.

780
00:48:55.363 --> 00:49:01.066
Like if you make a million dollars, everyone's like, oh, or, you know, you get that promotion at work or you sell your business.

781
00:49:01.106 --> 00:49:01.926
Everyone's like cheering.

782
00:49:01.946 --> 00:49:02.647
Congratulations.

783
00:49:03.367 --> 00:49:05.008
You tell people I'm not drinking anymore.

784
00:49:05.448 --> 00:49:06.508
And now there's like judgment.

785
00:49:06.548 --> 00:49:06.889
Oh, yeah.

786
00:49:06.929 --> 00:49:07.749
There's judgment.

787
00:49:07.769 --> 00:49:09.110
So funny because last week.

788
00:49:10.510 --> 00:49:13.673
we hosted some friends over for like a brunch and a play date.

789
00:49:14.413 --> 00:49:17.055
And it's new friends because we just moved to Miami.

790
00:49:17.756 --> 00:49:21.419
And I made like a brunch, but there was a lot of food I love to cook.

791
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:25.902
And he was saying like, come hungry, Corinne made a lot of food.

792
00:49:25.942 --> 00:49:33.648
And then he was telling them that at the beginning, when we started hosting a lot in LA, people would eat before they come over because they think they're just going to eat some lettuce.

793
00:49:34.108 --> 00:49:34.809
Yeah.

794
00:49:35.209 --> 00:49:36.610
And then all of a sudden they go in.

795
00:49:36.630 --> 00:49:38.551
See, there's a stigma about you as a person.

796
00:49:38.651 --> 00:49:39.131
A stigma.

797
00:49:39.151 --> 00:49:43.814
And then all of a sudden they walk inside and there's so much food and so much options.

798
00:49:43.854 --> 00:49:45.014
It's like a huge spread.

799
00:49:45.034 --> 00:49:46.235
It's just healthy.

800
00:49:46.695 --> 00:49:48.036
But it's not boring health.

801
00:49:48.096 --> 00:49:50.257
It's just made from real food, made from scratch.

802
00:49:50.277 --> 00:49:53.739
High quality ingredients can be a pasta just with high quality ingredients.

803
00:49:53.759 --> 00:49:54.679
It can be meat.

804
00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:56.620
It can be whatever it is, just real food.

805
00:49:57.181 --> 00:50:00.402
So it's a lot of misconceptions that we have towards that.

806
00:50:00.462 --> 00:50:03.184
And also goes back to the people that are on constant diet.

807
00:50:03.864 --> 00:50:04.866
Because they're on a constant diet.

808
00:50:04.886 --> 00:50:05.787
They don't live a lifestyle.

809
00:50:06.108 --> 00:50:08.952
So it's like, I had a friend who was like, yeah, I'm doing now the unshowy diet.

810
00:50:08.972 --> 00:50:11.055
I'm like, what?

811
00:50:11.075 --> 00:50:13.018
She's like, yes, I'm eating unshowies and sardines.

812
00:50:13.759 --> 00:50:14.921
Like, what do you mean?

813
00:50:15.341 --> 00:50:16.022
Three times a day?

814
00:50:16.062 --> 00:50:17.605
She's like, yeah, breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

815
00:50:18.386 --> 00:50:18.807
For how long?

816
00:50:18.827 --> 00:50:19.488
She's like, 10 days.

817
00:50:19.528 --> 00:50:19.728
I'm like,

818
00:50:20.628 --> 00:50:23.631
So people think that because they limit themselves, they just can't make any other choices.

819
00:50:23.691 --> 00:50:25.773
It's going to default to them losing weight or whatever.

820
00:50:26.393 --> 00:50:30.917
I'm also curious, do you believe that people have a true addiction?

821
00:50:31.158 --> 00:50:33.159
Like a mental... Of course.

822
00:50:33.520 --> 00:50:43.329
So if people have an addiction to food, then your body naturally isn't trying to solve that problem.

823
00:50:43.809 --> 00:50:46.592
If you're dependent on smoking cigarettes, for example,

824
00:50:47.587 --> 00:50:50.308
Every day your body's not waking up thinking, how do I stop smoking?

825
00:50:51.489 --> 00:50:51.729
True.

826
00:50:51.969 --> 00:51:00.233
I'm just curious if, like, we're talking about why successful people have a problem, and even on whatever, any version of people have a problem, not just successful people, sorry.

827
00:51:00.573 --> 00:51:06.236
We were talking about, like, how somebody's successful in one version, area of their life, and they're not so great at figuring out their diet.

828
00:51:06.736 --> 00:51:15.300
Is it because, like, they don't even realize, but they're addicted to the food that they're eating, so there's, like, it takes that much more willpower

829
00:51:15.580 --> 00:51:19.765
So we blamed willpower in a lot of places where it's not just willpower.

830
00:51:19.805 --> 00:51:24.371
Listen, the world of nutrition doesn't recognize...

831
00:51:25.532 --> 00:51:26.513
Sugar is an addiction.

832
00:51:26.993 --> 00:51:27.353
It doesn't.

833
00:51:28.194 --> 00:51:32.696
Like if you do a deep dive into the science, sugar is not an addiction for them.

834
00:51:33.257 --> 00:51:37.979
But you get people off sugar and they go through withdrawal from sugar.

835
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:39.700
So this is a classic sign of addiction.

836
00:51:39.780 --> 00:51:43.783
It's a classic sign of addiction, but it's not documented in science.

837
00:51:43.843 --> 00:51:47.145
And also food is not documented, DSM, as...

838
00:51:47.965 --> 00:51:53.168
as an addiction because you need food to live, to sustain yourself, to survive.

839
00:51:53.188 --> 00:51:57.892
You don't need alcohol, cigarettes, or drugs in order to survive and sustain.

840
00:51:58.292 --> 00:52:00.433
So it's very problematic, that thin line.

841
00:52:00.873 --> 00:52:03.775
And of course, there's also got to do, money got to do with it, you know?

842
00:52:04.216 --> 00:52:13.742
So there's always the sugar addiction, whatever it is, but you see kids, like when you introduce kids into sugar, you all of a sudden see that the only thing they want to consume is sugar.

843
00:52:13.762 --> 00:52:15.563
You're going to give a two-year-old just like,

844
00:52:15.943 --> 00:52:19.445
a Coke and a candy and sugar and chocolate, he wouldn't want to eat food anymore.

845
00:52:19.825 --> 00:52:22.567
He just wants that like sweet cravings all the time.

846
00:52:22.627 --> 00:52:23.948
Their taste buds change.

847
00:52:24.288 --> 00:52:27.950
Their chemical, the chemistry in the brain change and all of a sudden they just crave that.

848
00:52:28.430 --> 00:52:30.331
But no, we don't talk about that.

849
00:52:30.451 --> 00:52:31.852
Or we just do the replacement.

850
00:52:31.872 --> 00:52:38.256
We use the Splenda, we use the Aspartame, which is even worse because it makes you even crave more and more and more.

851
00:52:38.336 --> 00:52:39.696
I think once people...

852
00:52:40.777 --> 00:52:43.678
get off ultra processed food completely as a cold turkey.

853
00:52:44.318 --> 00:52:46.239
The first 72 hours are really hard.

854
00:52:46.279 --> 00:52:49.820
But after that, you pass that, you realize it's not so hard.

855
00:52:49.860 --> 00:52:52.641
And all of a sudden you start feeling good, start having energy.

856
00:52:53.001 --> 00:52:55.782
All of a sudden a banana tastes really sweet.

857
00:52:56.542 --> 00:53:05.008
And food has a different flavor, but it's not the MSG and the tons of sodium and the tons of all of those, you know, natural flavors and everything.

858
00:53:05.028 --> 00:53:08.011
They're just enhancing into our food to make it like an addictions.

859
00:53:08.351 --> 00:53:10.673
Like you open a bag of Pringles, you don't eat one.

860
00:53:11.133 --> 00:53:11.834
No, of course not.

861
00:53:12.234 --> 00:53:13.034
So this is what I mean.

862
00:53:13.074 --> 00:53:20.560
So if you've been eating ultra processed food since you were a kid, then there is a little bit of a withdrawal effect.

863
00:53:20.748 --> 00:53:21.329
Oh, of course.

864
00:53:21.389 --> 00:53:35.140
And also there's another thing is that if you were as a teen growing up being overweight, so there's a few times in your life where your fat cells...

865
00:53:35.780 --> 00:53:55.431
increase so when you're a baby until the end of your teen life and also for women that are pregnant so basically let's say you're now 18 you have whatever a million fat cells those are not going to change they can expand they can get smaller get bigger they cannot duplicate themselves but when you're growing up in your teen life they do

866
00:53:56.823 --> 00:54:06.385
So if you are raised and in your teen life you became obese or very overweight, you have more fat cells in your body.

867
00:54:06.825 --> 00:54:14.467
So it's also harder for you as an adult to lose that weight because your body always thrives to go back to that.

868
00:54:15.007 --> 00:54:24.429
So we know that I think the number is about 50% of people that were overweight, obese as teens have most likelihood to also be as an adult.

869
00:54:25.050 --> 00:54:26.530
So it starts very early.

870
00:54:27.411 --> 00:54:31.196
It also starts when the women are pregnant, but that's not talked about at all.

871
00:54:32.017 --> 00:54:35.842
There's like the first two years of a baby's life, which is...

872
00:54:36.929 --> 00:54:41.851
the three months before a woman conceived pregnancy and the first year of a baby's life.

873
00:54:41.971 --> 00:54:45.253
That changes their gut microbiome, their immunity.

874
00:54:45.293 --> 00:54:47.754
There's a lot of things that got to do with that, but it's not talked about.

875
00:54:47.774 --> 00:54:52.496
Like women pregnancy and what they eat is what, eat whatever you want, like eat da da da.

876
00:54:52.516 --> 00:54:53.616
It's not talked enough.

877
00:54:53.856 --> 00:54:56.997
They just give you prenatal and that you feel that that's it.

878
00:54:57.037 --> 00:54:57.758
That's what you need to do.

879
00:54:57.798 --> 00:54:58.278
And I get it.

880
00:54:58.318 --> 00:55:00.079
I was pregnant three times.

881
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:02.820
I went through, you know, throwing up.

882
00:55:03.260 --> 00:55:07.042
not wanting to eat anything, can't smell eggs, can't see chicken.

883
00:55:07.243 --> 00:55:08.523
Everything makes me nausea.

884
00:55:08.543 --> 00:55:09.244
Like, I get it.

885
00:55:09.904 --> 00:55:11.905
Like, my pregnancies were not easy.

886
00:55:12.686 --> 00:55:16.648
So I understand the hustle, but I also think that you can choose better.

887
00:55:16.808 --> 00:55:17.329
Not perfect.

888
00:55:17.409 --> 00:55:17.929
Just better.

889
00:55:18.409 --> 00:55:28.996
I'm just curious, because a lot of what we're talking about, like food almost programs us a certain way if you keep eating it again and again and again.

890
00:55:29.556 --> 00:55:32.398
So for somebody, for example, who's pregnant,

891
00:55:34.246 --> 00:55:39.429
If you kind of switch to healthier food before you get pregnant, does it make the pregnancy easier?

892
00:55:39.830 --> 00:55:41.871
If you've already gone through this withdrawal process?

893
00:55:42.011 --> 00:55:49.316
It should, because also when you're healthier and you're lower weight, not like a healthy weight, yeah, then your pregnancy is easier.

894
00:55:49.356 --> 00:55:55.360
You have less likelihood of like gestational diabetes or to be heavier in the pregnancy, which is hard as is.

895
00:55:55.800 --> 00:55:57.381
So, of course, there's a lot of things.

896
00:55:57.401 --> 00:55:59.723
The age also plays a big role in pregnancies.

897
00:56:00.563 --> 00:56:02.365
The older you're at, the harder it is.

898
00:56:02.606 --> 00:56:03.687
I can say it on myself.

899
00:56:03.727 --> 00:56:07.451
When I was 32, my pregnancy was much easier versus when I was 37.

900
00:56:07.611 --> 00:56:10.275
Do people get this advice when they're trying to get pregnant?

901
00:56:10.295 --> 00:56:13.438
Like, oh, also focus on your health and wellness for the six months?

902
00:56:13.518 --> 00:56:13.839
Not at all.

903
00:56:14.540 --> 00:56:15.000
Not at all.

904
00:56:15.401 --> 00:56:20.226
Like my OB, who I love in LA, was always like preaching for that.

905
00:56:21.147 --> 00:56:25.031
But I don't feel it's talked enough at all.

906
00:56:25.071 --> 00:56:26.933
But that's for all medicine.

907
00:56:26.973 --> 00:56:28.694
Like you go to the doctor and there's something.

908
00:56:29.015 --> 00:56:30.977
No one asks you, so how's your lifestyle?

909
00:56:31.017 --> 00:56:31.657
What are you eating?

910
00:56:31.797 --> 00:56:32.518
Are you working out?

911
00:56:32.578 --> 00:56:33.339
Are you sleeping well?

912
00:56:33.459 --> 00:56:34.260
Are you stressed?

913
00:56:34.640 --> 00:56:35.581
Are you taking care of yourself?

914
00:56:35.641 --> 00:56:36.522
It's like, oh, okay.

915
00:56:37.002 --> 00:56:37.863
Your cholesterol is high.

916
00:56:37.883 --> 00:56:38.764
You have high blood pressure.

917
00:56:38.844 --> 00:56:40.846
Let me prescribe you with one, two, three.

918
00:56:40.886 --> 00:56:42.327
Give you some statins and call it a day.

919
00:56:42.428 --> 00:56:44.289
Go home and go home for the rest of your life.

920
00:56:44.409 --> 00:56:44.710
That's it.

921
00:56:45.050 --> 00:56:47.412
No one asks you, so let alone in pregnancy.

922
00:56:47.512 --> 00:56:49.093
Pregnancy is more of like the baby's healthy?

923
00:56:49.273 --> 00:56:49.433
Yeah.

924
00:56:49.613 --> 00:56:49.853
Great.

925
00:56:50.334 --> 00:56:50.994
There's no problems?

926
00:56:51.294 --> 00:56:51.535
Great.

927
00:56:51.635 --> 00:56:53.376
Which is important, but there's more.

928
00:56:54.076 --> 00:57:00.741
Every conversation I have on this show about health and wellness, it really just comes back to self-advocacy and self-education.

929
00:57:00.901 --> 00:57:01.261
Yes.

930
00:57:02.102 --> 00:57:08.827
And, you know, it's tough, but nobody's coming to save you and nobody has their interests in mind better than you.

931
00:57:09.167 --> 00:57:09.327
No one.

932
00:57:09.910 --> 00:57:13.693
And if that can be like the main message, I think that's fine.

933
00:57:13.853 --> 00:57:17.896
I think that's like just focus on learning this shit yourself.

934
00:57:18.076 --> 00:57:19.937
Focus on advocating for yourself.

935
00:57:20.478 --> 00:57:29.544
And doctors can be great, but there's also the white rope syndrome where you just see the doctor and you're all of a sudden, okay, whatever he says is like, that's it.

936
00:57:30.084 --> 00:57:30.925
It's sacred.

937
00:57:31.096 --> 00:57:34.998
But also doctors don't know everything about nutrition at all.

938
00:57:35.058 --> 00:57:43.364
And they make mistakes and they're human and they work a lot of hours a day and they have 30 more patients that they've seen today and you're one of them and you live your life.

939
00:57:44.124 --> 00:57:52.529
So I think that, I don't want to say challenging, but asking questions, researching yourself, coming with that database, like self-advocating.

940
00:57:52.609 --> 00:57:58.193
I also think there needs to be a new job of like a doctor that like oversees people's

941
00:57:59.136 --> 00:58:08.279
you know, medical records and actually understand, oh, this doesn't, you're feeling, okay, let's give you another medications, but do the medication have a problem interacting?

942
00:58:08.299 --> 00:58:09.719
So they have like a holistic view of everything.

943
00:58:09.739 --> 00:58:13.540
A holistic view of everything because doctors specialize in a specific field.

944
00:58:13.620 --> 00:58:15.161
I do kidneys, I do this, I do this.

945
00:58:15.401 --> 00:58:17.641
Okay, but we are whole, we're not a kidney.

946
00:58:18.261 --> 00:58:19.482
A high stress lifestyle.

947
00:58:19.502 --> 00:58:22.703
A lot of people who are listening to this are entrepreneurs, they're founders, they're building.

948
00:58:23.063 --> 00:58:23.743
You are as well.

949
00:58:25.163 --> 00:58:27.304
What does a high stress lifestyle do to your health?

950
00:58:28.181 --> 00:58:31.322
So cortisol is like the stress is like your silent killer.

951
00:58:31.342 --> 00:58:32.902
Listen, we can be unstressed.

952
00:58:33.342 --> 00:58:35.003
Like our body can handle stress.

953
00:58:35.563 --> 00:58:40.464
Like I always said to people that come to me, I said, listen, I can pull you out of the situation.

954
00:58:40.504 --> 00:58:43.925
I'll put you in this village in Costa Rica and let you surf all day long.

955
00:58:43.945 --> 00:58:46.226
Even though it's great, it's not reality.

956
00:58:47.346 --> 00:58:49.047
So I always say, look at it.

957
00:58:49.107 --> 00:58:50.847
It's like your body is like a bank account.

958
00:58:50.927 --> 00:58:54.808
And if you just debit money out of it at some point, no money would be left.

959
00:58:55.708 --> 00:58:57.429
You also have to make deposits.

960
00:58:58.789 --> 00:59:01.091
So deposits, work out, eat well.

961
00:59:01.411 --> 00:59:04.875
If you like to meditate, if you like to do yoga, I cannot stand yoga for me.

962
00:59:05.035 --> 00:59:07.617
This is me off, but I work out and that's my mindset.

963
00:59:07.637 --> 00:59:09.279
You know, I go lift weights.

964
00:59:09.319 --> 00:59:11.020
And for me, I come back super calm.

965
00:59:11.041 --> 00:59:11.941
You put me in yoga.

966
00:59:11.961 --> 00:59:13.443
I come back super stressed.

967
00:59:15.178 --> 00:59:15.858
And it's fine.

968
00:59:15.978 --> 00:59:17.219
No one size fits all.

969
00:59:17.579 --> 00:59:19.159
But you have to make those deposits.

970
00:59:19.679 --> 00:59:21.040
You have to take that time off.

971
00:59:21.080 --> 00:59:22.280
You have to plan vacations.

972
00:59:22.300 --> 00:59:23.221
You need to take the rights up.

973
00:59:23.501 --> 00:59:26.642
Like you have to make sure you're giving your body something in return.

974
00:59:26.762 --> 00:59:29.583
Otherwise, you're just taking, taking, taking, taking.

975
00:59:29.623 --> 00:59:30.943
At some point, it will be empty.

976
00:59:31.623 --> 00:59:33.504
So we can eliminate the high stress.

977
00:59:34.024 --> 00:59:39.286
But we can give extra to your body knowing that's the certain lifestyle you live.

978
00:59:39.386 --> 00:59:40.186
You have to give it more.

979
00:59:40.699 --> 00:59:48.621
I think that with this audience in particular, the biggest issue is they keep, they know that health and wellness is important.

980
00:59:48.821 --> 00:59:49.041
Yeah.

981
00:59:49.221 --> 00:59:50.902
They see enough podcasts and they see it on.

982
00:59:50.922 --> 00:59:53.402
They see it connect, the ties, everyone talks about it now.

983
00:59:53.663 --> 00:59:53.883
Yeah.

984
00:59:53.923 --> 00:59:58.464
Like in this like entrepreneur circle, enough people talk about how important health and wellness is.

985
00:59:58.504 --> 01:00:02.345
Like nobody wants to be rich, successful and, you know, be dying.

986
01:00:03.946 --> 01:00:05.866
But a lot of them, they keep putting it off.

987
01:00:06.307 --> 01:00:08.408
They put off for later and they'll do it.

988
01:00:08.648 --> 01:00:09.508
I don't have time right now.

989
01:00:09.528 --> 01:00:10.509
I'm building my business.

990
01:00:11.069 --> 01:00:14.731
I'll take care of it when I exit or when I'm on to the next thing.

991
01:00:15.371 --> 01:00:21.614
I feel like people don't realize how important it is to maintain.

992
01:00:21.934 --> 01:00:24.155
Maybe not be perfect about it.

993
01:00:24.175 --> 01:00:25.516
Yeah, but just do something.

994
01:00:25.556 --> 01:00:26.336
Just do something.

995
01:00:26.436 --> 01:00:27.417
And I'm curious if...

996
01:00:28.546 --> 01:00:37.094
If somebody is of the mindset of I'll do it later, what's outside of, you know, slapping them and telling them like, no, that's a stupid way to look at your health.

997
01:00:37.774 --> 01:00:40.397
What is a sign that something's off in their life?

998
01:00:40.477 --> 01:00:45.801
Like what is, is it, is it you're getting tired in the afternoon?

999
01:00:45.922 --> 01:00:49.084
Is it like your grain fog?

1000
01:00:49.925 --> 01:00:50.325
What is it?

1001
01:00:50.406 --> 01:00:53.849
I think it's like problem with sleep.

1002
01:00:55.044 --> 01:00:55.584
They're stressed.

1003
01:00:55.604 --> 01:00:58.246
They wake up a lot during the night or they can't fall asleep.

1004
01:00:58.406 --> 01:00:59.627
Waking up feeling fatigue.

1005
01:01:00.108 --> 01:01:00.848
Brain fog.

1006
01:01:00.888 --> 01:01:01.689
Feeling tired.

1007
01:01:01.749 --> 01:01:03.750
The need for like caffeine all the time.

1008
01:01:04.471 --> 01:01:05.671
Being very edgy.

1009
01:01:06.152 --> 01:01:08.433
Bowel movement that isn't working properly.

1010
01:01:08.493 --> 01:01:10.134
Feeling bloated after each meal.

1011
01:01:10.154 --> 01:01:12.176
Like there's a lot of signs along the way.

1012
01:01:12.216 --> 01:01:13.957
Like your skin is not healing properly.

1013
01:01:14.417 --> 01:01:18.981
You catch every virus that anyone comes close to you or you don't.

1014
01:01:19.021 --> 01:01:20.382
But when you do, it takes you...

1015
01:01:21.182 --> 01:01:22.483
three weeks to heal from it.

1016
01:01:22.603 --> 01:01:24.464
Every cold takes you two weeks to recover.

1017
01:01:24.884 --> 01:01:26.965
So your body gives you the sign.

1018
01:01:26.985 --> 01:01:29.047
It's just, I don't know if you're listening.

1019
01:01:29.607 --> 01:01:39.152
If somebody is getting some of these symptoms, the one thing that I've always noticed for me is whenever I'm overworking, because I've always cared about my health.

1020
01:01:39.172 --> 01:01:43.235
I've been playing sports and working until I was 10 years old.

1021
01:01:43.515 --> 01:01:46.697
But when I really, really, really- Which has got to do with it because it was-

1022
01:01:47.703 --> 01:01:51.004
a part of your DNA and how you were raised.

1023
01:01:51.064 --> 01:01:52.144
And that's why it's so important.

1024
01:01:52.164 --> 01:01:55.525
I always say to my kids, it doesn't matter which sports you choose.

1025
01:01:55.765 --> 01:01:58.766
Each and every one of you needs to do sports constantly.

1026
01:01:59.366 --> 01:02:01.946
I don't mind soccer, football, dancing, gymnastics.

1027
01:02:02.006 --> 01:02:02.606
You do sports.

1028
01:02:02.646 --> 01:02:05.147
In this house, everyone needs to be in some sort of activity.

1029
01:02:05.247 --> 01:02:10.388
It gives you dedication, sacrifice, discipline, everything.

1030
01:02:10.428 --> 01:02:13.069
Like it changes who you are to learn how to, you know,

1031
01:02:13.909 --> 01:02:19.674
Lose, win, sacrifice, work harder, and understand that hard work gets you anywhere you want to be.

1032
01:02:19.834 --> 01:02:20.755
Yes, to all of it.

1033
01:02:20.795 --> 01:02:22.116
I've played sports my whole life.

1034
01:02:22.156 --> 01:02:24.838
And forget the fact that it just keeps you healthy.

1035
01:02:25.259 --> 01:02:31.504
It is like the mindset change, the doing hard shit, the working with the team, the leader.

1036
01:02:31.524 --> 01:02:32.445
Like there's so many...

1037
01:02:32.885 --> 01:02:35.566
things that cross over from sports to help you with the rest of your life.

1038
01:02:36.606 --> 01:02:46.409
But when I am really run down, even though I still work out, still eat healthy, I get the worst colds.

1039
01:02:46.469 --> 01:02:49.690
My body is like, Scott, you need to chill the fuck out.

1040
01:02:50.150 --> 01:02:51.530
We're shutting this down right now.

1041
01:02:51.890 --> 01:02:54.531
And then I'm like, okay, I need to not travel.

1042
01:02:54.791 --> 01:02:56.332
I need to not do anything.

1043
01:02:56.352 --> 01:02:57.192
I need to not go to the gym.

1044
01:02:58.433 --> 01:03:03.122
I think a lot of people, unfortunately, especially this audience, they wait until it's

1045
01:03:03.767 --> 01:03:04.247
Too late?

1046
01:03:04.267 --> 01:03:04.668
Too late.

1047
01:03:04.808 --> 01:03:05.768
Like they burn out?

1048
01:03:05.788 --> 01:03:06.029
Yeah.

1049
01:03:06.269 --> 01:03:07.250
Yeah, then you pay a price.

1050
01:03:07.310 --> 01:03:08.150
I used to do it.

1051
01:03:08.190 --> 01:03:08.551
I get it.

1052
01:03:09.011 --> 01:03:12.053
I would go in like such a high mode, high mode, high mode, then you burn out.

1053
01:03:12.113 --> 01:03:14.395
And then today, I don't get there anymore.

1054
01:03:14.495 --> 01:03:16.676
Like I understand that the price you pay is too high.

1055
01:03:17.117 --> 01:03:18.298
So you reach this peak.

1056
01:03:18.558 --> 01:03:18.738
Yeah.

1057
01:03:19.138 --> 01:03:19.959
And it's really high.

1058
01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:22.341
But then the downtime is also really long.

1059
01:03:22.621 --> 01:03:23.361
So it's not worth it.

1060
01:03:23.381 --> 01:03:26.143
It's like better being here all the time versus here and there.

1061
01:03:26.403 --> 01:03:29.566
You mentioned this at the beginning of the podcast, and I want to just highlight this for people.

1062
01:03:30.489 --> 01:03:34.813
What does feeling good actually feel like?

1063
01:03:34.993 --> 01:03:37.055
What does being healthy actually feel like?

1064
01:03:37.075 --> 01:03:42.259
You mentioned like lack of brain fog, maybe better skin, getting sick less.

1065
01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:47.643
You said also at the beginning, not many people know what it like.

1066
01:03:47.703 --> 01:03:49.805
Not many people experience feeling good.

1067
01:03:50.946 --> 01:03:51.667
What is that?

1068
01:03:51.807 --> 01:03:53.028
Like what is feeling good?

1069
01:03:53.622 --> 01:03:57.283
It's a good question because it's hard to accumulate into a few things.

1070
01:03:57.343 --> 01:04:03.105
But for me, it's like waking up in the morning, feeling energized, feeling motivated, like pushing.

1071
01:04:03.285 --> 01:04:10.667
Like, I want to say not feeling that I'm dragging myself all day long, feeling lethargic, not feeling good.

1072
01:04:10.787 --> 01:04:12.348
My hair is shedding all the time.

1073
01:04:12.368 --> 01:04:13.848
My skin is bad all the time.

1074
01:04:14.268 --> 01:04:15.149
I'm not getting sick.

1075
01:04:15.169 --> 01:04:16.770
Like very rarely I get sick.

1076
01:04:16.830 --> 01:04:18.091
And if I get sick, it's fine.

1077
01:04:18.491 --> 01:04:22.394
But like you actually feel that your body operates in a good level.

1078
01:04:22.534 --> 01:04:24.556
I don't get tired after each meal.

1079
01:04:24.656 --> 01:04:27.158
I don't need to lay down to rest after each meal.

1080
01:04:27.198 --> 01:04:27.838
I can just go.

1081
01:04:27.938 --> 01:04:31.001
I can be on caffeine and I can be not and I love coffee.

1082
01:04:31.661 --> 01:04:35.283
But like now I felt like in the past week, the coffee didn't do justice with me.

1083
01:04:35.303 --> 01:04:39.366
So today I had my first coffee after a week because I felt like my body needs a break.

1084
01:04:39.686 --> 01:04:42.868
You also need to be attentive to your body.

1085
01:04:43.488 --> 01:04:44.429
One day you need this.

1086
01:04:44.469 --> 01:04:45.970
The other day you need other things.

1087
01:04:45.990 --> 01:04:47.050
You need to be receptive.

1088
01:04:47.090 --> 01:04:51.173
We're not like a linear, you know, line that is just like that all the time.

1089
01:04:51.573 --> 01:04:55.536
So for me, if I feel tired in the middle of the day, I don't have energy.

1090
01:04:55.836 --> 01:04:57.077
I don't feel like going to the gym.

1091
01:04:58.037 --> 01:04:59.278
I don't feel like I'm sharp enough.

1092
01:04:59.398 --> 01:05:02.220
I have something in my, I stop, I pause.

1093
01:05:03.641 --> 01:05:04.181
What's going on?

1094
01:05:04.642 --> 01:05:05.102
What do you need?

1095
01:05:06.063 --> 01:05:07.063
I traveled a lot.

1096
01:05:07.524 --> 01:05:08.965
I had some family issues.

1097
01:05:09.045 --> 01:05:09.905
I had some stuff.

1098
01:05:10.206 --> 01:05:11.767
Do I need to change my supplement routine?

1099
01:05:11.787 --> 01:05:13.088
Do I need to go more on a walk?

1100
01:05:13.288 --> 01:05:14.469
Do I need some time off?

1101
01:05:14.849 --> 01:05:15.910
Do I need some quality time?

1102
01:05:16.090 --> 01:05:16.770
What do I need?

1103
01:05:16.870 --> 01:05:20.993
Like I stop and ask myself because I feel something changes.

1104
01:05:21.053 --> 01:05:21.634
Is it my age?

1105
01:05:21.654 --> 01:05:22.434
Is it my hormones?

1106
01:05:22.494 --> 01:05:23.715
I don't just go, go, go, go, go.

1107
01:05:23.755 --> 01:05:27.738
But you are super aware of your body, your mood, your energy.

1108
01:05:27.758 --> 01:05:31.121
But I got there because I actually give my body what it needs.

1109
01:05:31.141 --> 01:05:33.062
So I now know how am I supposed to feel.

1110
01:05:33.082 --> 01:05:36.065
If you never know how you're supposed to feel good, then you always feel bad.

1111
01:05:36.365 --> 01:05:38.487
So you've like established your own baseline.

1112
01:05:38.507 --> 01:05:39.728
You need to establish the baseline.

1113
01:05:39.848 --> 01:05:40.929
That's a good thing to say.

1114
01:05:41.329 --> 01:05:42.110
I like that a lot.

1115
01:05:42.310 --> 01:05:43.411
You need to establish the baseline.

1116
01:05:43.711 --> 01:05:47.034
Because I think a lot of people, they just kind of wake up and they go through their day.

1117
01:05:47.114 --> 01:05:48.135
And some days they feel good.

1118
01:05:48.155 --> 01:05:48.915
Some days they feel bad.

1119
01:05:48.935 --> 01:05:49.916
They have no idea why.

1120
01:05:50.245 --> 01:05:52.146
No, and there's always a connection, a correlation.

1121
01:05:52.166 --> 01:05:55.429
It can be even for women, your cycle, before your cycle, this.

1122
01:05:55.509 --> 01:05:56.489
Like, there's changes.

1123
01:05:56.529 --> 01:05:58.350
Like, we're not the same every time.

1124
01:05:58.371 --> 01:06:00.492
And there's also stuff you go through.

1125
01:06:00.512 --> 01:06:01.993
Do you give it the time to process?

1126
01:06:02.033 --> 01:06:03.254
You don't have the time to process.

1127
01:06:03.294 --> 01:06:06.436
Like, for me, we move from whatever.

1128
01:06:06.456 --> 01:06:07.957
This is something, you know, small.

1129
01:06:08.177 --> 01:06:09.138
Not small, but whatever.

1130
01:06:09.178 --> 01:06:10.278
We move from L.A. to Miami.

1131
01:06:10.339 --> 01:06:10.439
Yeah.

1132
01:06:11.339 --> 01:06:13.562
I was really debating whether I want to move or not.

1133
01:06:13.622 --> 01:06:15.565
For six months, I processed the situation.

1134
01:06:15.605 --> 01:06:16.766
For six months, I cried.

1135
01:06:17.207 --> 01:06:17.668
I talked.

1136
01:06:17.728 --> 01:06:24.436
I went to say goodbye to every person in LA that I know from my pediatrician, my OB, the teachers of my kid.

1137
01:06:24.777 --> 01:06:25.538
Every person.

1138
01:06:25.698 --> 01:06:28.161
I went to say goodbye, gave a hug, gave a gift.

1139
01:06:29.022 --> 01:06:30.903
shed some tears, I processed.

1140
01:06:31.483 --> 01:06:42.848
When I got here, I felt like I'm ready to do, by the way, last week I went to LA, it was sad for me to leave, but it's like, you need to give room to those things you go through, we're not a machine.

1141
01:06:43.479 --> 01:06:45.560
A lot of people treat themselves like a machine.

1142
01:06:45.580 --> 01:06:47.801
And I'm a resilient, strong person.

1143
01:06:48.141 --> 01:06:48.862
I'm not a machine.

1144
01:06:49.282 --> 01:06:49.822
I pause.

1145
01:06:50.022 --> 01:06:51.263
I let myself process.

1146
01:06:51.323 --> 01:06:56.185
And I feel that if I went through a week that my body needs more TLC, then I'll give them more TLC.

1147
01:06:56.405 --> 01:06:58.907
And I can work 24-7.

1148
01:06:59.427 --> 01:07:00.427
But where will it lead me?

1149
01:07:01.268 --> 01:07:01.868
I love this.

1150
01:07:02.128 --> 01:07:09.772
I think that so many people, if they just gave themselves a little bit more space.

1151
01:07:09.932 --> 01:07:10.112
Yeah.

1152
01:07:11.067 --> 01:07:16.608
then they would actually achieve what they're trying to actually achieve in a much more efficient way.

1153
01:07:16.668 --> 01:07:20.869
But instead of giving themselves space, this is something that I've dealt with my whole life.

1154
01:07:20.949 --> 01:07:25.410
I just work, don't give myself time to process, jump into the next thing.

1155
01:07:25.790 --> 01:07:27.310
You're talking about what did you do on Labor Day?

1156
01:07:27.330 --> 01:07:31.111
I was playing around with all these different AI tools and shit like that.

1157
01:07:32.111 --> 01:07:34.811
I've gotten better at it, but it's hard for me.

1158
01:07:35.151 --> 01:07:36.112
It's very hard for me.

1159
01:07:36.212 --> 01:07:36.532
I get it.

1160
01:07:37.112 --> 01:07:37.452
I think...

1161
01:07:38.392 --> 01:07:45.535
If you want to become a dad, I think one day when you will become a dad, I think that will give you a different perspective.

1162
01:07:45.575 --> 01:07:46.175
It happened to me.

1163
01:07:46.395 --> 01:07:50.737
So I'm saying from my experience that I was always go, go, go, go, go, go, go.

1164
01:07:50.757 --> 01:08:05.603
And then when Gabriel, my first, was born, after I stayed at home with him as a baby and whatever it is, once he went into preschool, I think he was like 20 months or whatever it is, at 2 p.m., my day stopped.

1165
01:08:06.771 --> 01:08:08.485
It's mommy time, whatever it is.

1166
01:08:08.525 --> 01:08:09.715
And it's just the world stopped.

1167
01:08:10.304 --> 01:08:22.130
And I think that when you don't have those commitments, then you actually are not as effective as a person because then you have endless amounts of time to just do anything with.

1168
01:08:23.570 --> 01:08:26.372
You know, one of my really good friends, you may meet him.

1169
01:08:26.432 --> 01:08:27.432
His name's Leo Pereja.

1170
01:08:27.452 --> 01:08:29.173
He's the CEO of EXP.

1171
01:08:29.433 --> 01:08:31.214
So big real estate company.

1172
01:08:31.834 --> 01:08:32.575
But he lives down here.

1173
01:08:32.635 --> 01:08:32.815
Yeah.

1174
01:08:32.835 --> 01:08:34.516
We met him and his wife when we moved down.

1175
01:08:34.976 --> 01:08:39.478
And we always have this conversation because, you know, I'm working nonstop and I'm like, you know, I want to have kids.

1176
01:08:40.258 --> 01:08:43.420
and the classic thing is, well, I don't know if I'm going to have time for kids.

1177
01:08:43.540 --> 01:08:43.860
You will.

1178
01:08:44.500 --> 01:08:45.341
And he said the same thing.

1179
01:08:45.361 --> 01:08:46.241
He said, Scott, you don't get it.

1180
01:08:46.602 --> 01:08:48.923
Like when you have kids, you become better at everything else.

1181
01:08:48.943 --> 01:08:50.604
At everything else because you don't have time to waste.

1182
01:08:50.684 --> 01:08:51.384
No, you don't have any time.

1183
01:08:51.404 --> 01:08:52.385
You're like efficient.

1184
01:08:52.665 --> 01:08:57.187
You know, like most of us waste time on bullshit that we don't need to be spending time on.

1185
01:08:57.827 --> 01:09:00.569
But when you have kids, you don't have time for bullshit.

1186
01:09:00.609 --> 01:09:02.410
No, because you also want to spend time with them.

1187
01:09:02.670 --> 01:09:03.130
Of course.

1188
01:09:03.710 --> 01:09:06.232
So you just focus on the stuff that moves the needle in your life.

1189
01:09:06.672 --> 01:09:09.953
So it's almost like a forcing function to only do the things that matter.

1190
01:09:10.493 --> 01:09:12.834
Exactly.

1191
01:09:13.094 --> 01:09:15.215
I don't know how we got here from health.

1192
01:09:15.916 --> 01:09:19.937
Because I think health is an overall mindset and I think raising healthy kids.

1193
01:09:19.957 --> 01:09:20.458
I remember.

1194
01:09:20.498 --> 01:09:25.560
It was the fact that we don't pay attention to ourselves, don't give us time to think about.

1195
01:09:25.600 --> 01:09:27.701
And kids stop you whether you want it or not.

1196
01:09:27.741 --> 01:09:28.381
They stop you.

1197
01:09:29.586 --> 01:09:35.914
And they give you that time because you also realize that time passes by so fast and it's so precious when they're small.

1198
01:09:36.394 --> 01:09:39.638
Like I look at my seven and a half year old and I'm like, I can't believe it.

1199
01:09:39.658 --> 01:09:41.080
You were a baby a minute ago.

1200
01:09:41.140 --> 01:09:42.802
The time just flies by.

1201
01:09:43.823 --> 01:09:46.826
And you realize that that's the most important task in your life.

1202
01:09:47.527 --> 01:09:53.209
Because this will be your continuous, this is what, this is your legacy, this is what you're living in the world.

1203
01:09:53.709 --> 01:10:05.673
And you really want to give them a day all between, you know, that balance of like giving them a great life, but also teaching them the values, the discipline, you know, the hard work that they need to do because they are raised differently than how I was raised.

1204
01:10:06.845 --> 01:10:10.792
And bringing it full circle to your own health.

1205
01:10:11.013 --> 01:10:12.876
Like now you have someone else to live for.

1206
01:10:13.116 --> 01:10:13.697
Oh, 100%.

1207
01:10:14.058 --> 01:10:16.643
You know that word, I would die for my kids.

1208
01:10:16.723 --> 01:10:18.887
And then they ask, but would you live for them?

1209
01:10:19.748 --> 01:10:20.209
I love that.

1210
01:10:20.995 --> 01:10:21.175
Yeah.

1211
01:10:21.395 --> 01:10:27.057
So would you do anything that needs to do in order to live a healthy, good life for your kids?

1212
01:10:27.077 --> 01:10:31.298
Because all you want to be is be healthy, running around with them.

1213
01:10:31.318 --> 01:10:31.819
Exactly.

1214
01:10:31.859 --> 01:10:35.400
The scariest thought is that they'll be left alone without you in this world.

1215
01:10:35.860 --> 01:10:38.461
So would you do anything to make sure you'll be here?

1216
01:10:39.003 --> 01:10:54.954
And this is where you start to care about your health, not from like a, you know, selfish perspective from how can I be on this earth as long as possible, living in the best quality of life, not just living and existing and having, God forbid, dementia or depression.

1217
01:10:55.274 --> 01:10:57.815
which started now being in an earlier age, which is so sad.

1218
01:10:57.835 --> 01:10:58.315
Horrible.

1219
01:10:59.115 --> 01:11:05.356
But you see people, again, that are, you know, 85, 90, 95, and their quality of life is horrible.

1220
01:11:05.496 --> 01:11:14.998
And it's gotten to the point where some people are now, you know, I don't know a better word, but like, like don't judge me for using this word, but like a burden on their family.

1221
01:11:15.198 --> 01:11:19.059
Yeah, but 95, I feel like you lived a full life and a full circle.

1222
01:11:19.559 --> 01:11:20.099
You know who's 95?

1223
01:11:20.179 --> 01:11:20.619
William Shatner.

1224
01:11:23.624 --> 01:11:23.904
Really?

1225
01:11:23.924 --> 01:11:25.666
Oh, I wouldn't think so.

1226
01:11:26.146 --> 01:11:28.568
He's very, very, very healthy.

1227
01:11:28.969 --> 01:11:29.990
He has a podcast.

1228
01:11:30.050 --> 01:11:31.451
No, he's so sharp.

1229
01:11:31.751 --> 01:11:32.392
But that's rare.

1230
01:11:32.412 --> 01:11:34.133
That's like the normality.

1231
01:11:34.193 --> 01:11:35.975
But that should be what we're going towards.

1232
01:11:36.095 --> 01:11:37.456
And that's what we should be aiming for.

1233
01:11:37.576 --> 01:11:41.399
Everyone's talking about biohacking and longevity and living longer.

1234
01:11:41.980 --> 01:11:44.262
But if you're living from 90 to 100 and...

1235
01:11:45.763 --> 01:11:51.165
you're in like a home and you have dementia, Alzheimer's, and your health is not good.

1236
01:11:51.185 --> 01:11:52.485
That's not what people want.

1237
01:11:52.505 --> 01:11:53.825
Yeah, that's not what people want.

1238
01:11:53.845 --> 01:11:56.726
But I think that's also you're now going into the 90 and 100.

1239
01:11:56.786 --> 01:12:05.549
Now we're talking about people in their 40s and 50s that they look like in their 70s, and they can walk, run, chase after their kids.

1240
01:12:05.669 --> 01:12:07.870
And so I think it starts.

1241
01:12:07.970 --> 01:12:08.790
And also, by the way,

1242
01:12:09.935 --> 01:12:15.121
What you do in your 30s, 40s, 50s has a direct correlation to how you're going to age in your 70s.

1243
01:12:15.181 --> 01:12:16.302
And this is why you can't push it off.

1244
01:12:16.522 --> 01:12:16.922
Exactly.

1245
01:12:17.023 --> 01:12:21.848
Because what you do now will impact me at 70 and 80.

1246
01:12:22.248 --> 01:12:23.529
Not what I'll do at 65.

1247
01:12:23.850 --> 01:12:25.912
Because the muscle mass, I won't be able to build at 65.

1248
01:12:27.013 --> 01:12:30.775
The brain cells won't be the same at 65 as they are today.

1249
01:12:31.335 --> 01:12:35.878
Everything, it's like maintenance starts like, you know, we deteriorate after the age of 25.

1250
01:12:36.558 --> 01:12:38.279
So you need to start building it up.

1251
01:12:38.339 --> 01:12:39.320
Like there's a constant point.

1252
01:12:39.340 --> 01:12:42.902
It's never too late, but there's comes a point where it's not as productive.

1253
01:12:44.075 --> 01:12:44.876
It's not as efficient.

1254
01:12:44.896 --> 01:12:47.257
It's easier to maintain than to start building.

1255
01:12:47.277 --> 01:12:51.340
It's easier to maintain than start, but there's no too late.

1256
01:12:51.400 --> 01:12:55.283
You know, it's always better to start than not to start, just to say that.

1257
01:12:55.303 --> 01:13:06.712
But then on the other hand, you know, just to do those things like socially, mentally, everything, just to do it together, to do it in a place where you want to be in your 70s and 80s and be with your kids and grandkids and feel great.

1258
01:13:06.732 --> 01:13:06.832
Yeah.

1259
01:13:07.264 --> 01:13:11.166
Well, there's so many different pieces to health, wellness, food, nutrition.

1260
01:13:11.706 --> 01:13:15.228
Do you feel like the industry is getting more or less honest?

1261
01:13:16.009 --> 01:13:16.289
Less.

1262
01:13:16.709 --> 01:13:17.429
Less still.

1263
01:13:17.810 --> 01:13:24.273
Even with, you know, Bobby Kennedy trying to make America healthy again and like, is it?

1264
01:13:25.133 --> 01:13:28.915
I think it's just that truth is not as important anymore.

1265
01:13:28.935 --> 01:13:32.456
It's more the narrative you're predict you're like dictating.

1266
01:13:32.576 --> 01:13:35.397
And I think it's just it's so hard to find the truth today.

1267
01:13:35.937 --> 01:13:37.818
And I think we came so far from it.

1268
01:13:37.858 --> 01:13:40.079
So it's almost impossible to know what the truth is now.

1269
01:13:40.459 --> 01:13:46.001
What is the biggest lie in the food diet health industry?

1270
01:13:46.373 --> 01:13:53.158
I think, first of all, people still feel there's like a magic thing, a magic pill, a magic shot that will make you feel great.

1271
01:13:53.198 --> 01:13:54.640
So it used to be diet pills.

1272
01:13:54.680 --> 01:13:55.700
Now it's GLP-1.

1273
01:13:55.740 --> 01:13:57.702
Just take it and everything will go away.

1274
01:13:57.762 --> 01:13:59.003
You're going to feel amazing.

1275
01:13:59.383 --> 01:14:00.164
No side effects.

1276
01:14:00.264 --> 01:14:00.784
No nothing.

1277
01:14:00.965 --> 01:14:01.345
Okay.

1278
01:14:01.825 --> 01:14:03.587
They had some great advantages.

1279
01:14:03.647 --> 01:14:04.828
What about the disadvantages?

1280
01:14:04.868 --> 01:14:06.129
Does anyone talks about it?

1281
01:14:06.209 --> 01:14:08.931
There's no shortcuts, no free meals in the world.

1282
01:14:09.031 --> 01:14:10.052
Everything comes with a price.

1283
01:14:10.980 --> 01:14:14.483
So, I mean, to your point, you don't think GLP-1s are good for people?

1284
01:14:14.883 --> 01:14:18.245
I think peptides in general, I think there's a lot of advantages.

1285
01:14:18.305 --> 01:14:19.526
I think there's a lot of problems.

1286
01:14:19.686 --> 01:14:20.547
It's not regulated.

1287
01:14:21.067 --> 01:14:22.488
I'm not specifically talking about GLP-1.

1288
01:14:22.529 --> 01:14:23.749
I'm talking about peptides in general.

1289
01:14:23.769 --> 01:14:24.870
It's not regulated enough.

1290
01:14:25.391 --> 01:14:29.734
So you don't know exactly what you're putting into your body because there's not enough regulation.

1291
01:14:30.114 --> 01:14:33.737
People that don't understand what it does enough go ahead and sell it.

1292
01:14:34.357 --> 01:14:37.039
And for GLP-1, I think it depends on generation.

1293
01:14:37.079 --> 01:14:42.302
And I think it also, the question is like, are we talking about people that need seriously to lose weight?

1294
01:14:42.502 --> 01:14:42.702
Yes.

1295
01:14:42.762 --> 01:14:44.283
And they have tried every other option.

1296
01:14:44.323 --> 01:14:44.503
Yes.

1297
01:14:44.523 --> 01:14:45.543
You need to lose 10 pounds.

1298
01:14:45.603 --> 01:14:46.904
I'm not sure GLP-1 is for you.

1299
01:14:47.464 --> 01:14:49.626
No, I think people are using it as a substitute for self-control.

1300
01:14:49.826 --> 01:14:50.226
Exactly.

1301
01:14:50.746 --> 01:14:51.787
Which I don't know if is healthy.

1302
01:14:51.807 --> 01:15:00.852
It's not because then you need to take it for the rest of your life and they have some side effects and you still need to do the work of healthy eating, working out, getting your protein, being active.

1303
01:15:00.872 --> 01:15:02.493
And if you don't do that, you're not going to be healthy.

1304
01:15:03.185 --> 01:15:11.430
The biggest sort of debates right now in health and wellness, it could be about seed oils, about alcohol, about sugar.

1305
01:15:12.690 --> 01:15:23.256
Are these things that you should just completely remove from your diet or some of this a little bit like people are a little bit too aggressive about how bad these things are for you?

1306
01:15:23.296 --> 01:15:25.057
Listen, I think seed oils are bad for you.

1307
01:15:25.257 --> 01:15:29.540
I have been recommending to people to get off seed oil for 15 years now, so I'm not new.

1308
01:15:30.160 --> 01:15:30.440
Yes.

1309
01:15:30.981 --> 01:15:35.347
Do I think you're going to get inflammation in a second the minute you're going to eat seed oil?

1310
01:15:35.647 --> 01:15:35.827
No.

1311
01:15:36.348 --> 01:15:39.952
I think it's also a matter of like how much, what are you eating, what is your day-to-day.

1312
01:15:39.972 --> 01:15:40.673
But it doesn't help.

1313
01:15:41.134 --> 01:15:41.394
No.

1314
01:15:41.634 --> 01:15:42.796
There's nothing good about it.

1315
01:15:43.697 --> 01:15:45.559
Sugar, I think we do need to cut off.

1316
01:15:47.100 --> 01:15:50.663
Again, if you're consuming sugar here and there, again, if you're living on sugar, no.

1317
01:15:50.743 --> 01:15:51.583
And then alcohol.

1318
01:15:51.603 --> 01:15:55.565
Listen, I drink alcohol, but I drink like a glass of wine once a month.

1319
01:15:56.126 --> 01:15:57.526
So I don't know how to consider that.

1320
01:15:57.546 --> 01:15:59.448
I just feel like, again, it's a matter of self-control.

1321
01:15:59.968 --> 01:16:02.789
I don't feel the need to completely cut it off from my life completely.

1322
01:16:02.829 --> 01:16:06.231
But again, I have a glass of wine every now and then.

1323
01:16:06.311 --> 01:16:07.052
I think it's great.

1324
01:16:07.232 --> 01:16:09.613
For people who drink daily, I would cut it off.

1325
01:16:10.254 --> 01:16:15.137
What was the best diet advice you've ever received or given?

1326
01:16:15.157 --> 01:16:15.457
Yeah.

1327
01:16:16.769 --> 01:16:18.369
Wow, that's a good question.

1328
01:16:21.070 --> 01:16:26.112
Listen, it sounds corny, but I think the mindset is what matters the most out of everything.

1329
01:16:26.172 --> 01:16:29.533
And I think like eating real whole foods and your mindset, that that's what matters.

1330
01:16:29.553 --> 01:16:35.614
Like if you live, if you like the self-love and self, you know, appreciation, that's what really starts it off.

1331
01:16:35.634 --> 01:16:37.575
So I don't have one answer for that.

1332
01:16:38.048 --> 01:16:42.015
No, but I think that that's a refrain from what most people would expect you to say.

1333
01:16:42.055 --> 01:16:48.265
So it's not about carnivore, intermittent fasting, or pick.

1334
01:16:48.846 --> 01:16:49.146
No.

1335
01:16:50.008 --> 01:16:50.528
It's everything.

1336
01:16:50.588 --> 01:16:51.830
It's your mindset and your habits.

1337
01:16:52.386 --> 01:16:54.148
It's almost like a first principles approach.

1338
01:16:54.208 --> 01:16:56.190
It's like you figure out the mindset.

1339
01:16:56.571 --> 01:16:57.772
And then you go to everything else.

1340
01:16:57.832 --> 01:16:59.794
And then everything else is downstream from that.

1341
01:16:59.995 --> 01:17:00.375
Exactly.

1342
01:17:00.395 --> 01:17:01.276
We can do carnivore.

1343
01:17:01.296 --> 01:17:01.857
We can do this.

1344
01:17:01.877 --> 01:17:02.397
We can do that.

1345
01:17:02.437 --> 01:17:03.138
We can do vegetarian.

1346
01:17:03.158 --> 01:17:03.759
We can do vegan.

1347
01:17:04.139 --> 01:17:06.502
We can frame it in so many ways.

1348
01:17:06.722 --> 01:17:10.006
It's just that it just needs to start with like the basics.

1349
01:17:10.907 --> 01:17:13.470
Where can people find all your work, connect with you?

1350
01:17:14.184 --> 01:17:20.370
So they can find me on Instagram, which is Corinna Doni Nutrition, on TikTok as well, my website, CorinnaDoni.com.

1351
01:17:20.450 --> 01:17:22.232
So I'm always there and available.

1352
01:17:22.792 --> 01:17:28.017
And we've gone through all these different pieces of sort of mindset, mental health, diet advice.

1353
01:17:28.037 --> 01:17:33.803
If you could pass on just one lesson, the most important lesson to your kids, what would it be and why?

1354
01:17:34.222 --> 01:17:42.226
I think it would be like advocate for yourself and self-appreciation would be the number one, like that learn your self-value, have the confidence.

1355
01:17:42.246 --> 01:17:47.469
Like I think everything surrounding with that, that's the basics for everything.

1356
01:17:47.909 --> 01:17:51.611
Once that's set in mind, I feel that's the growth for everything.

1357
01:17:51.711 --> 01:17:52.392
And for me...

1358
01:17:53.112 --> 01:17:56.836
I worked really hard to get there because I didn't feel like that.

1359
01:17:57.336 --> 01:17:59.759
So it's very important for me to give my kids that.

1360
01:18:00.199 --> 01:18:03.102
But then on the other hand, and again, that's why I don't have a straight answer.

1361
01:18:03.523 --> 01:18:08.808
That's also what made me figure out so many things myself because I struggled.

1362
01:18:09.969 --> 01:18:10.830
So there's no one answer.