JustJules - 4.9M Subscribers at 16 | Why Your Videos Aren't Working

I didn't grow up with social media. Rita have a TV in our house. I had my surgery and I couldn't do anything. I had school, I peded and I started watching these YouTubers and I was like, this looks like a lot of fun. Maybe I should try it. So I started it and then it grew. She didn't build a brand, she rebuilt herself. Just jewels turned heartbreak, healing and hard truths into a voice millions connect with. Unfiltered, funny, spiritual and brutally honest. What's the question that everyone asks about how to grow on YouTube? What's the most surprising answer you give them? Consistency. You have to be very consistent and also very courageous. Just don't over think, just post it. When you're starting out, focus on being true to yourself, also post inconsistently. The social media industry is constantly coming up with new things. You can always go on to that trend. She reminds us that growth is messy and authenticity is radical. Her message isn't about perfection, it's about owning every part of your story. Even the parts you're scared to say out loud. Most people think that they're going to go viral as soon as they start. No, it's a process. It's like a roller coaster. There are so many different people on social media, so you're bound to find your audience. Choose something that you love because if you don't, you're going to be doing something you hate for the rest of your career. Don't put too much pressure on yourself and just keep going and never give up. So, jewels, you're writing a book at 16 about how to grow on YouTube. So what's the question that everyone asks about how to grow on YouTube and what's the most surprising answer you give them? Yeah, usually the question is how to go viral, how do I go viral? And I think my answer is consistency. You have to be very consistent and also very courageous because Aristotle once said that courage is the most important virtue. But you just have to be courageous and put yourself out there. Was that easy or tough for you when you first started? Because now I know you put it like what 60 pieces of content like a week a day like I feel like it's like seven, seven pieces, like seven shorts a day. That's an insane amount of video content. Like maybe if you were tweeting but this is video content, it's edited video content. So this shows what consistency actually looks like. Seven pieces a day. So consistency and sort of just putting yourself out there, don't be embarrassed. I think a lot of people have a problem with that though. Like they get in their own head. So talk me through like the first week you started posting. Talk me through like what was going on in your head? Were you comfortable? Were you scared of posting on the internet? Like what was that emotion? Yeah, when I first started YouTube, I was very scared because I used to go, I used to be in a gymnastics team, right? And I knew that they were going to find my YouTube channel and like you know how teenagers are these days. You know they make fun of you for stuff like this. Teenagers have never changed by the way. Not just these days. Like they would make fun of you 10 years ago, 20 years ago. Okay. Well, I was scared of being made fun of. But then I left that gym and then I was like, you know what? I'm just going to start because if I don't start, I'm never going to be where I want to be. So I just started and I was like, who cares if like they find it, you know? First videos you ever created. What were they about like were you just like, I'm just going to record my life and upload? Or did you have like a strategy behind it? First of all, I actually love the way you think. You just, I need to start. If I don't start, I'm not going to get there. So I'm just going to take massive amounts of action. But what did that sort of first few videos look like? Yeah. So my first, like my first video ever was a Taylor Swift edit. It was like, how similar are you to Taylor Swift? You know, I don't, I don't listen to Taylor Swift about. It was during the Aristotle. I was like, oh, this is, you know, this is a genius idea. Plus I was in a like a programming camp and they're like, oh, we're going to make our own YouTube channel and you're going to upload a video. You know, we're going to teach you how to do it. So I was like, okay, let me just do this. I posted it and it went viral and I was like, oh, this is so funny. But I didn't start posting consistently until the end of the year because I was, I was studying for the SAT test. So I had to focus on my school, right? But so I started posting consistently in December when I got my surgery for my shoulder and my mom took a video of me after anesthesia and I was just saying random stuff and she recorded that. I was like, this is hilarious. So I posted on YouTube and then went viral and that's kind of how it started. And that's when you were like, okay, this could actually turn into something real. Yeah, I can, yeah, so I didn't even know you could get monetized on YouTube. So my initial, like my goal when starting my YouTube channel was just to motivate other people to chase after their dreams. So okay, so how long was that time from just starting to, when you started to take it seriously, there was a couple months. Starting, I think it was June or July and then December. Yeah, posting consistently December. Yeah. You know, it's wild. So you didn't even know, you didn't know you could get monetized on YouTube? No, until I actually got monetized. That's why because I don't know the data. But I've heard that more and more like younger kids and teenagers, when you ask them what they want to do for a living, they say like content creator. Yeah, YouTube, right? Right. Which is wild. Because obviously, like I'm 35, that was not a thing when I was in high school at all. I mean, I was like the first generation of Facebook and Instagram and social media and obviously older than me didn't even know what content was. But now people want to be YouTubers and they want to be content creators. So you actually didn't. I didn't know that it could actually be a career. Plus, I didn't grow up with social media. We didn't have a TV in our house. Really? Yeah. I didn't know anything about social media until I got bored because I had my sort of my surgery and I couldn't do anything. So I went on to social media. I had a school iPad and I started watching YouTube and I started watching these YouTubers and I was like, you know what? This looks like a lot of fun. Maybe I should try it since I have nothing else to do. So I started it and then it grew. I remember it. I can't remember when exactly, but it was, I think it was 2024 at the beginning of the year I got monetized. I was like, wait, I can make money. I started making like a ton of money. I was like, this is insane. And then my parents started helping me with the bank account. Well, yeah, because you have to turn into a business too. Exactly. Setting up an LLC. Do you think that because, do you think that some people when they start content, maybe they take it a little bit too seriously. You know what I mean? Maybe they're trying a little bit too hard and maybe that actually lowers the quality of their content and the realness. Like if I said, I want to become a content creator and I want to build a business around content. Then you put all these expectations on yourself. Yes. And I think that just like listening to your story, you didn't even have a TV in your house. So you were like the anti-content, anti-media person. I was so anti like TikTok, anti Instagram and anti-YouTube. So the fact that I'm a YouTuber now and a TikToker is like, it's so ironic. But it's because you didn't, you didn't have pressure on yourself. Yeah. I was just myself, you know? And that's what I think people have a really hard time with. I get a really hard time with being themselves, especially when they start. I think that they get scared of like putting themselves out there and then they add these expectations on and then they consume so much content. They're like, oh my god. Like how do I make sure my stuff's going to go viral? And they're overthinking it. And I think you just didn't overthink it. You just didn't get it. When you think about, when you think about this strategy, is there more strategy now behind your stuff? I think there is just because I have to work around a lot of other things like my school and my aviation programs. By the way, okay. So before we even talk about content strategy, you are a very impressive individual because I think this will like sort of tee up who you are as a person for the people who don't know you and haven't seen your content. So you can, you can go through some of these things with me, but you were an incredible gymnast. I don't know all the rankings for gymnastics, but I, from what I read like incredibly good. Much better than me. And listen, like I think I tried like gymnastics once when I was like 10 years old. And like I fell off like a beam and like winded myself. And then I'm like, please don't do me. I don't know. Listen, I played hockey. That was like my thing growing up. Hockey's awesome. Yeah, that's good. But the point is you were very good. I guess I'm assuming you still are because you had this shoulder injury at 14 or only 16, which is wild. You're a sophomore college at 16. You're studying aviation. Your dad's a pilot. Yes, my dad's an airline. So I'm assuming that through some, some sort of influence there as to why that's something that's interesting to you. What else to you? That's really cool. So you're, you want to be a pilot. You're a super impressive content creator. You're way ahead of your time in college, right? Like 16 year in college. I think for the normal person, 16 is like what, grade 10 or something like that or grade 11. I love it. I think it depends on when you were born, but yeah. So you are like just a very ambitious person. In general, you're a very ambitious person. I think that you have four life four life goals, airline pilot, social media, national geographic photographer and military. Okay. So there's like my life. There's a lot here. There's a lot here. And also New York Times best selling author. I love that. Yes. New York Times best selling author. But I bucket that into the content creator thing. So I'm trying to figure out, trying to figure out how you think and how you and how you operate and how you're so ambitious at such a young age. Like where does this, where does this drive this passion come from? Because it's, it's also impressive because it's hard, but it's impressive to be good at multiple things. It's interesting. Yeah. I think it's very hard for most people. I think that most people diversify too much. They, they try and do everything. Well, I think that most people should just focus like just focus on one thing. Yeah. And be really good at school, great content creation, even within content creation. Most people I wouldn't say go, go build a YouTube channel and write a book at the same time. I would say those are two different things. And you could be a really good writer or you could be a really good, and I'm not saying forever, but I'm saying especially when you're like starting the thing. And it feels like you're doing a whole bunch of things simultaneously that are just sort of like early stages and all these different things. Um, where did this personality come from? I don't actually know. I would say, um, I guess growing up in this word of gymnastics, you're always pushed to be perfect and good at everything. We have four events and you had to be perfect at all four in order to win. So I think the fact that I grew, I did so many years of gymnastics and competitive gymnastics. It just made me into the person I am today. And how do you think through what you want to take on? Because these are not even like similar interests. No, it's not like you're going to be like a photographer and airline pilot and then you're also going to be a creator and a writer. So how do you choose what you go after? Well, I don't really choose. I just kind of fall into it or also I have like a little spark of curiosity. You know, like I always actually know I hated reading because I had, I had problems with reading, but in Ireland, I picked up a book. It was like at this free library, right? I picked up a book. It was Rick Rewarden. It was Percy Jackson and the Olympians. And that's where my like curiosity for books started. And then for being a pilot, my dad was a pilot or he is still as a pilot. And I've always loved traveling. I always grew up traveling and moving. So I loved, I love flying. And then content creation is just something that started out of boredom. I was like, but you follow your curiosity. Yeah, I follow it. Yeah, that can be dangerous. Like it can be really dangerous because you can kind of get lost. And sometimes I feel like I get lost because I have too many hobbies. You know, I, I also do archery. So I love, oh my god, I didn't. Okay, so apparently Google didn't pick that up. Yeah, not many people know that, but I like baking. My dream for the longest time was to be a professional like baker, have my own bakery. Yeah, yeah. But then I was, I was like, what is something that I'm really good at and love? You know, and that was flying. So that's why I want to be an airline pilot. Have you thought about like how you spread your time across all these different things? Like how do you figure out what's like the most important and gets the most time versus what's like a nice hobby, right? Yeah, I think deadlines, like I'm in school, right? I'm a sophomore. I'm getting a degree in aviation. So well, right now I'm taking two classes, but on Friday, I have my finals. So I'm like these deadlines are coming up. I have to prioritize that. And then I can focus on all the other things. And I think that actually one thing that I thought about this a lot and I want your opinion on it. You are such like you have so many diverse interests and different interests. And I actually think that if you can prioritize the things that are the most important, it's actually very good to have many interests. I think it makes you a better creator. I think it just makes you a more interesting person. The only downside is like when you have all these hobbies and interests, if they take up too much of your time, then it takes away from like the main thing or the most important thing, right? Do you feel, because I believe this, I think that most content creators get so obsessed with their content, they do like nothing else except like working content, but then their content actually starts to suffer because they don't have a life. But you know what I mean? They don't have a thing that brings them inspiration. 100%. I think that's why I have so many hobbies because all these different things bring inspiration to me and they encourage me to try new things. And then if I'm like, if I suck at those things and sometimes I'm like, well, I really like this. I'm going to keep trying. And then I can actually incorporate it in my content. You know, like, I loved gardening during the summer. So I made videos about gardening. Those videos did pretty well. But it also brings a whole other audience, you know, to my channel. And I think that really helps. Going back to when this first started going really well. So you had your first viral video, that was like the surgery video, right? Well, the first one was a Taylor. And then the second one was like the surgery video. Okay. You went from zero to a hundred thousand subscribers in basically your first month of consistent posting. Yeah. Outside of outside of that one viral video, if somebody's just getting off the ground now and just starting, you mentioned consistency. What does that actually look like? Because I think we probably believe the same. You shouldn't chase virality. So then what is the formula? Like, I mean, this book is answering the question how to grow YouTube, right? So what is your recommendation when somebody asks, like, where do I go? How do I get started? How many posts? Like all this? Yeah. I think just don't overthink it. I talked to someone. She was starting her YouTube channel and she was like, like, I feel like I don't like how I touch my hand this video. Like, how should I put the caption? Should I put any hashtags? I'm like, girl, you're overthinking it. Just post it. Just do it. You know, you have to get yourself out there and don't overthink it. But if you, I think when you're starting out, just focus on being true to yourself, following what you want to post, you know, and also post inconsistently. Like, it doesn't have to be seven times a day. Like, I just do that because it works for me, you know. But you can post like twice a day or even twice a week, you know. How do you keep up with that though? Seven times a day. I have a schedule. I also have a book. So it's a book full of ideas. I can show you. And I just write down usually, like random ideas just come to my brain and I just write it down. And then throughout the day, I'm like, oh, I have time to do this. I just mark it off and I record the video. And like, do you do you edit and everything? Yeah, I edit all my videos. But like, you can do like seven edits a day. Yeah. I feel like for real. Yeah, I like for real. You don't have like people that help who work me. No, I do have a long form editor who helps me with my long form. But I only post like one long form video a month. Okay. So like, I know how much time it takes to edit, because I've done it. So how do you get through like seven videos in a day? Because, okay, so anybody who's listening is like, that is an insane amount of editing, right? For somebody that's never really even edited one video before. I mean, just to be a little bit more strategic and tactical, like, do you batch stuff or the certain tools you use that help you out? Like, or is the future of social media right now maybe less edited and maybe maybe you don't have to do as much? Okay. I think that's a very interesting question. Uh, first off, I do batch stuff. Like, if okay, this, I don't know why, but this is how my brain works. If I have a donut, I'll record three videos of that donut because I feel guilty of eating a donut instead of like a salad or something, you know? And I'm like, well, I have to get something good out of this. So I will make a video or three videos, you know? So you justify eating the donut because it helps you create content. Okay, I like that. Yeah, it motivates me to create content and or like, if I have a nice outfit on, I'll maybe like make five or six videos with that outfit just because I don't dress up every day, you know? So I kind of batch create, but I don't post all of the same videos on the same day. So it's like you and then you have your notebook. So you are constantly, like just as a creator, you're constantly just like looking for different ideas and inspiration. And the social media industry is constantly coming up with new things. So you can always go onto that trend, you know, that viral thing. That's a really interesting idea. So when you when you notice something that's trending in viral, you will try and recreate it. And it still works as well as, yeah, yeah, because I add my own little twist to it. So basically, there's, I remember this one trend, it was like, everybody tells me like I'm CG5 or something, probably because I feel like I'm tool for this. It's okay. It's just like a viral audio. And I was like, well, everyone who's doing it, right? And they were all doing it the same way. You know, like, people are like, oh, you look 20 by actually 15 or whatever. Oh, I've seen this. Yeah. So I added somebody's comment. And I was like, you're in college. I thought you were 16. And I was like, probably because I am 16, you know? But yeah. So it's like, I add my own little twist to trends. But you don't, but I'm assuming like, so you batch create, you're always looking for inspiration. You're like writing it down. You're constantly just, everything you do is like an idea. Yeah. Yeah. It's like you like almost like just like you just like start to look for ideas everywhere you go. Yeah. Well, it's not like I look for it. It just comes to my brain. Yeah. Yeah. I think that that's also the reason why it's so important to just start and to start posting because then you start to thinking content. Yes. Exactly. You start thinking like an entrepreneur. So you post six, seven videos per day on a good day. Do you ever worry that something's going to flop? Oh, yeah. I flop all the time and you don't care. No, I don't take it down. No, I don't take it down because like in the long run, it's going to go viral. Like I had this one video. I got 50,000 views the day that I posted it. And then it got 50,000 views. Oh, like it stayed at 50,000 views for the rest of the month. But then two months later, I saw that one of my videos was going viral and had six million views. I was like, what is this video? And I was like, wait, that's the video that flopped because I left it on there. It went on to people's feeds. And it just went viral again. So this is just my environment. Yeah. Yeah. It went. Yeah. So then like whatever month later, two months later, it got massive read. Yeah, it worked. And so everything you're saying is just like people overthink content. Yeah. They do basically that's like everything. You just got to do it. Like I cannot stress that enough. You know what's wild? Do you know Graham Stephanus? Have you he's a finance YouTuber? That's why, but he does he have two daughters. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know his whole family. I just I don't think he has daughters. It doesn't matter. The whole point is like he's he I don't know if it's still a strategy. And he's a big you. He has a couple of million not as doesn't have as many as you, but he has like a million, two million, three million. I don't know. But he gets so he's very careful about what he posts on YouTube. He's very careful because he feels this is a wild backs on. He still feels this way, but he feels that YouTube is a very unforgiving platform compared to like a TikTok like TikTok. He was saying that each video is judged independently of the other ones. So if you post one on TikTok, it go viral, post another one sucks, find post third one, it goes viral. He thought that on YouTube in particular, if you post bad content then like your whole channel gets like penalized. You don't feel that's the case? Not really because I think my audience is more there for me than for my content. Like they just want to see what I do on a daily basis, you know. And my I'm really proud of the community I've grown. Like I love my fans and we have so many similarities because I post what I like. You know, I post aviation videos, I post school videos, comedy skits, stuff about my faith. You know, and the people that like that kind of content also like me because I'm similar to them. So you just post what you like when you build an audience around that? Exactly, yeah. So you're speaking at Vid Summit. By the way, congratulations. Thank you. I also know that you're like taking I think some public speaking lessons. Yeah, right. Yeah. But you were you were good. I was listening to it. So you speak about viral videos, but again, not from the perspective of try and be viral, but like build systems that create viral videos and build systems that sort of support your workflow and whatnot. Because viral is about systems like not luck. So what is what we spoken a little bit about how you think about content, how you write down ideas, how you just post and you just post and you keep learning and learning and learning, you focus on trends, all the what else is part of your content system? I think like my schedule works around content creation. So like I wake up at 5 a.m. I start studying until noon and then from noon to like 2 p.m. I have lunch with my family and stuff. And then that's when I start recording videos. But when I record videos, I always want it to be intentional. You know, I wanted to have a purpose. I wanted to serve a purpose. And like my faith videos, I'll make it so that I can spread the good news, you know. But then other videos like videos about my schoolwork, I want to post those videos so that I can motivate other people to keep on studying. Quick question. What's your go to when you got 10 minutes before a meeting or a workout? 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That's NetSuite.com slash Scott Clary. NetSuite.com slash Scott Clary. So you just picked stuff that's like important to you. That's part of the system. I think that's important too. Like, because otherwise if I chose something that, okay, most people don't know this because I took down all the videos. But when I first started YouTube, I would only make cooking videos because those videos were the ones that did well. But because I hated cooking so much, like my audience started to see that and then they started to like leave, you know, because they saw that I didn't find joy in making content for them, you know, because it's just cooking. And then I was like, you know what, I have to do something that I actually like. Otherwise, I'm going to be burnt out. So I started posting comedy skits and stuff that I actually like. And since then, I haven't really burnt, been burnt out. That's so interesting. So your audience could actually pick up. They were just like chasing the trend. Yeah, my emotions. Yeah. Yeah. They like, they like used to, you notice that like being, because like I know cooking videos used to be huge, huge, huge. And I think they probably still aren't right. But, but you notice that even though you were a good creator, because you were doing them just because you felt like you had to. They were not resonating. Yeah. Every single time I post something that it's more like I have to, they can tell that like I didn't want to. That's wild. I know. Yeah. That's so crazy how they can like feel it. Yeah, maybe or like. Yeah. And also like the way I, I am in the videos, you know, usually I'm always super smiley or, you know, super enthusiastic. But if they feel that something's off, they're going to be like, like, I don't want to watch this. You know, I want to watch you have fun. So interesting. What's something about YouTube growth that people get wrong? Most people think that they're going to go viral as soon as they start. And I'm like, no, it's a process. I think it's really interesting. The fact that I started going viral the same month, I started posting consistently. But that was, I don't know why, I don't know how that happened. I think YouTube is more like a process. And it's not going to be like straight up as soon as you start. It's going to be like up and down up and down. It's like a roller coaster. It's like life. I guess, I guess the question that a lot of people would have is, how do I know if I'm just going through a process or how do I know if I'm creating content that's just not good or not working, right? Because I don't want somebody to do 10 years of content that they're not happy with. And they, and they're like, well, I'm just going through a process and over time, I'm going to. So how do you gauge? Because like you, well, you got, you, you found like the fit for your content very quickly, very quickly. So what's the, what's the, the thing you look for when somebody's starting out like, I've been doing this for three years, I'm not getting traction. Is it because I haven't done it long enough or is it because I haven't pivoted and switched into something though? Yeah, maybe you just haven't found what really works for you. You know, you haven't found the right audience, but there are so many audiences out there. Like there are so many different people on social media and they're all looking for different types of content. So you're bound to find your audience. I think you just have to keep posting. And then if you see that your videos are genuinely not doing well, and I think it's time to pivot and try something else. That's, that's smart. And I mean, this is what you were doing with your cooking content. Cooking content. Yeah. Yeah. I was getting bored of it. And then I was like, you know, I have to find something that I love. Otherwise, this is only going to last two months. I wish more people, I just wish more people would like get out of their own head when they start posting content. Yeah, I know me too. Because there's two groups of people, right? There's people that there's actually three groups. I'd say there's people that are successful at content. There's people that are too scared to start. And there's people that love themselves and their content so much that they never pivot. And I think that's also not a great group of people. They're like, I think you do have to like not have an ego when it comes to content. Yeah, it's definitely because I think that that's like, like, listen, ego is also bad. Just because you love something, you have to make sure that like the audience loves it to agree. Because I think as content creators, we're also we're also working as like stewards. You know, we're presenting something to the audience. And if they don't like it, you have to switch. You know, I'm just interested in sort of the way you just approached life because you were you were homeschooled. All right. So you're in college at 16. You obviously have you obviously have a lot of opinions about about school about just like how to tackle stuff in life that you're passionate about. We sort of touched on we touched on like how you like look at different hobbies and projects. But talk to me about like school and homeschooling. And it started like some of the some of the experiences that you had that allowed you to be successful because I think that obviously whatever happened, whatever your parents did in your life to, you know, the homeschool you, it's obviously worked out. It's obviously worked out. So this will sort of give people a little more context for your life and how you were raised and what not and sort of what's led to you being who you are today. So you were pulled out of school at a young age, correct? Yeah, I was pulled out of school in second grade because I had a learning deficiency in reading comprehension, which is wild to think fast forward with what you become. And talk to me about like, okay, so what do you think? What do you think allowed you to become successful through a homeschooling environment? Like, and maybe this could be a lesson for parents too because you've sort of gone through this. Yeah, I think my parents are definitely a big part of why I'm successful today because they've always been there to support me in any decision that I made. And they're also there to say, hey, maybe you shouldn't do this, you could try something else. You know, they were there to keep me in line. But yeah, I was taken out of school in second grade. I love school, but I was not excelling in reading comprehension just because I couldn't understand what I was reading. So my mom's actually a special education teacher who specializes in gifted children. So an autistic children. But so she took me out and my brother out of school and she started homeschooling us. And we did year-round homeschooling. So basically we study year-round, we don't get a summer break. And I think that's one of the reasons why we're so advanced in school and why I mean college today. Do you think these benefits to homeschooling versus traditional? Yeah, definitely. I think I'm a lot more innocent than kids these days. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. It's a very good thing. And also, I feel like I've been giving so many more real life opportunities in kids in school. Like the fact that I'm homeschooled, I was able to live in different countries, you know, like Ireland. I lived in Hawaii for a month. But no, but you get to explore and experience the world. Yeah, yeah, exactly the real world. I actually, I think there's a lot that's sort of broken with traditional education. I think that and I want, I just want to, like, you can have a comment on it or not. It doesn't matter to me. But I think that forget about, you know, fixing the whole educational system, which is difficult thing to do. What were the things that you focused on in a homeschooling environment? Do you think gave you the biggest advantage? Because I think there's a lot of stuff in traditional school. It's good. But I don't think it actually sets you up for the real world. I think you are like very well positioned for the real world for building a business, for being an entrepreneur, for being successful, for taking chance. So what did you focus on when you were homeschooled? I think finding what you wanted to do when you grew up. Like, I think it was in the second grade when I, when my mom started homeschooling me, she was like, what do you want to be when you grew up? So we can focus your education on that, you know? So if you want to become a doctor, you know, we'll sign you up for programs that help you become a doctor. And because I was like, oh, I want to be an airline pilot. Ever since I was a little kid, I wanted to be an airline pilot, you know? So I did discovery flights, you know? I learned that you don't only have to, like, be an airline pilot. You also have to be meteorologists. You have to know the weather, you know? So you were doing all this stuff, like, like, very young. Growing up, yeah. And we also didn't do, like, in school, you do, like, science, like chemistry and all kind of stuff, because that's not going to translate into anything you want to do. I never did chemistry, which is interesting. I know. Yeah, but I mean, like, then you focus on stuff that actually benefits you. Yes, exactly. Yeah. No, I think it's smart. I think that we're kind of like on the, the same page, like, it's so, it's so funny because homeschooling was actually not really, now I think it's a little bit more popular. And I don't, like, I don't have kids. I want kids someday, hopefully soon, but I don't have kids yet. But, um, I don't have an issue with traditional school. I just feel like, like, it doesn't cover everything. Right. It could do so much better. I think so. And I think that even maybe you found this, how much you've learned through building a business and through being a YouTuber and through being a creator in terms of, like, skills that will set you up for the real world. So I want you to tell me, like, what you feel, but I think that as you've become this creator and this business owner, which it is a business, like, these skills will help you in so many other things if you choose to not become a creator. That's some point in your life. Yeah. Well, I mean, I, I didn't want to be a business owner. I wonder, like, I don't want a YouTube channel, but I think the fact that I did start a YouTube channel has, has made me into a very, like, a very educated person. You know, I know how important it is to not give up and to always show up. And that's something that you have to do in, like, regular jobs, you know, like a nine to five, for example, 100%. But you understand, like, you're not even giving yourself enough credit. Like, you understand how impressive it is to be able to capture attention. Like, this is a whole, we could have a conversation about marketing. You can capture attention in a way where like millions of people are interested in what you do. I think I like that, that blows my mind. I don't even know how I do it. You know, like, I don't know how I went. Yeah, but you figured it out. I think you're, I think that you're selling yourself short. I think you actually do know how to do it. Not in like a, oh, it's like such an easy strategy. And you do this step one, step two, step three. It's not like that. It's like, you just know how to bring yourself onto a screen and to communicate with somebody. It's a very useful skill. It is a very useful skill. It's an incredibly useful skill. Thank you. I'm serious. It's an incredibly useful skill. Like, you have to understand what you've built. Like, you really have to understand it. Like, okay, so if we actually go through numbers, like, you're, you're just coming up on like five million total audience, like billions and billions of views. Do you know how? Like, I'll tell you a story because my audience is not as big as yours, not even a fraction. But when you realize the amount of people who like consume your content, it actually blows your mind a little bit. And I'm curious if you had this experience at Vid Summit, because I only really, I only really understood how many people consume my content when I stood in front of like a thousand people. And you're like, that's a thousand people. That's that's not even that many in social media. Like, I mean, like, people who just start and they post their first really get a thousand views. Do you know what a thousand people looks like in real life? It's crazy. I've seen a stadium. It's like a hundred thousand people. I'm like, the fact that I almost have a million is insane. I know. And every day and multiple times a day. It's crazy. And like, some people, like, I've heard people, they're like, oh, it's just a number on the screen. Don't focus on that number. But it isn't just a number on a screen. There are people behind that number. There's a person behind that screen. And the fact that people are consuming your content, I think it's very important that you have to keep it clean, you know, and you have to be a good content creator. Yes. I think that I think that too many people just look for like hacks or clickbait or like, and I see like good creators and I don't like it. I mean, I see good creators that just sort of hop on trends. They just hop on trends that are like kind of like negative trends and stuff like that or like, and they get clicks. And I'm like, but like, what value, I mean, I know there's a million different types of content. But like, what value are you giving the world? If you like make, you know, you make your content and your views off like, hating on someone else. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. You're not being a good person. You're not being a good content creator. And what purpose does that serve to the world? I agree. I think that most people, I think that it's unfortunate because I think that people just assume that to get clicks and views, you have to be like controversial. Yes. Controversially. But like not at all. You are like the least controversial creator ever. I think so. I really think, listen, okay. I think that most of your content from what I've seen is like very positive, very uplifting, not controversial at all. I know that now you like bring your faith into your content as well. I think I think that's one of the things that makes me a little bit more controversial. But it's not the fact that like, I'm not trying to put my religion down their throats. It's just like, like, I want to see you in heaven too. You know, like, I like that vibe. That's a good vibe. Thank you. I also think it's interesting because I'm curious. Like, you didn't, you were not religious at all when you first started content or you didn't bring it into the content. Well, so my grandmother was a Catholic nun. So I grew up in a kind of religious household, but she would always go to church. I never went to church, you know. But then recently, like, my life took like a 160, you know, like, change completely. Like after that was at the shoulder entry. At the shoulder entry. Yeah. Like in gymnastics as well. I was kind of like like getting towards the end of my career. I medically retired this past summer. But yeah, my life completely changed. And that's when I found the Lord. And that's when I was like, like, I started when I started my YouTube channel. I didn't say anything about like God and stuff. But then like when the Lord started changing my life in ways, I was like, I want to share how good he is. You know, now I share that with other people, you know. So what was the moment? Was it? Was it? If you go a level deeper, explain that story. Was it because you saw the thing that you were working towards that you were now forced to leave? But like a new opportunity came like, what do you mean when he like, changed your life? Panged my life. Yeah. Well, um, I lost a friend too. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But to like depression and I realized a lot of teenagers my age were going through these kinds of things. And I was like, like, I did not know this because my life was always like rainbows and sunshine, you know. But when I realized that people were actually struggling in the real world, I was like, I have to like do something about this. And that's kind of when I started my YouTube channel. And then the Lord, like, changed my life. Like I lost all of my friends. You know, left the gym I was going to. And I got an injury that could have been avoided. But the Lord changed my life and made it so much better, like through YouTube. And that's when I was like, oh, I want to make faith based content. So I can tell other people how good the Lord is. And it's so amazing because you would think, oh, it's not really going to like affect anybody. You know, but I have people come up to me, like at church, for example, now that like you're the reason why I'm so close to the Lord. I'm like, what? Like that's amazing. Thank you. You know, I love that. I actually think that I actually think that like just younger people, not just younger people, just people in general, I think life is not easy for like a lot of people. And there's a lot of reasons. There's a lot of a lot of very heavy reasons. We don't go into all those, but like I'm like even if I was going to, you know, look at somebody who's going through high school right now, it's like 14, 15, 16, maybe they're not worried about the things that like a 30 or 40 or 50 or 60 year old is worrying about with the cost of living, but they probably feel the effects. Their parents are probably stressed out a little bit or whatever, or it could just be social media. And they're always comparing themselves to other people. Yes, definitely. I think that like social media algorithms, I mean, it's social media is given both of us like careers and really interesting lives, but at the same time, it's also like really negative. And I think that I think that, you know, I also try and do a version of what you do with the content where I'm like teaching and I'm like trying to like educate people and like give people sort of a playbook for life, whatever it is, we're talking about, we're talking about business, entrepreneurship content, like learn from somebody who's done it so that you can go do it yourself and hope it's valuable. And encourage them. 100%. But that's not all social media. That's obviously not all social media. So I think that people are I think like if you look at data like mental health is like out of all time low. Yeah, it's like in recent history. Yeah. So you've noticed that when you put out some of this content, like it actually like uplifted people. Yeah. Yeah. And also like and also like homeschool videos, I post a lot that I was homeschooled my whole life, you know, and how my life was so different from a regular kid. I had I was at an event. It was like a museum event because we go to a lot of museums and stuff, you know, and this mom comes up to me and she's like, Hey, you're just jewels, right? Usually like my fans are like nine years old. This lady was like maybe in her 40s and she was like, Hey, you're just jewels. I'm like, yes. And she's like, I homeschooled my kids because of you. I'm like, you did what? I'm like, no, hey, you know, but she was like, yeah, homeschooling has helped my kids so much because they are so much more confident because they're not being compared to their peers, you know, and they're not getting bullied. And I was like, wow, that's so amazing, you know, indeed is a success story partner. Now, if you're hiring, indeed is all you need. Let me give you an example. If I needed to hire a new editor for this show, I'd go to indeed and be super specific. Not just can you edit audio. 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Like when I think home schooling I'm thinking of like, okay, like set up a curriculum that like benefits real world experience. You're talking about the fact that like all the mental health problems all are like our personal lives are so much more different from like public school kids. So like in a good way. You think that's why like you're generally like you know like a mentally healthier person because you don't deal with the comparison and like all the negatives that they come with. Growing up like I didn't care like I didn't even know what mental health was until like two years ago. And like before that all I cared for is about like animals and plants I would learn. I was curious about the world and then like when I started surrounding myself like with other kids my age I realized how like hard their lives were because they were only focusing on the negatives. That's why on my YouTube channel I try to post usually like uplifting and positive videos so I can show people that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. You know that it is going to be okay. If you just focus on the negatives your life is going to be like horrible. Yeah well yeah well I mean like if you focus on it that becomes your reality. Exactly just gross. And it's and it's sad that like high school even like younger or older like it's it was already this pretty difficult spot for people but now a social media is just like pouring fuel on the fire. Yeah and also like I think a lot of my audience also compares themselves to me because I'm always showing that like I'm traveling and my life is perfect and it is pretty good in real life as well but I'm studying most of the day you know like and people don't know that they're like oh you shouldn't be studying more you know you're always traveling and like my life on social media is only I would say probably like 35% you know the real life is. Yeah exactly and they're always comparing their 100% like life to my 35%. Yeah but you're okay saying that you're okay being honest about that I think the biggest issue social media is when people who they post 10% or 20% of their life they pretend that that's their whole life and then you look at them and you're like why can't my life be like that and why am I not as cool or as rich or as successful or as funny or as good looking and then there's this comparison game when it's like it's not real it's like. Yeah but comparison is a thief of joy and I think that's something that you really have to understand. What was when you started to include more of this like faith-based Christian content what was sort of the response was there any was it mostly positive? Yeah mostly positive like a lot of people okay so that's actually a very very interesting question at the beginning it was like oh Jules is Christian too that's awesome you know I'm gonna follow her because she's Christian and then like it was like that up until like kind of recently it was I always posted like Bible verses or like praise the Lord you know but then recently I posted this one video it was like very biblical video it was like controversial in the real world because something I learned is that biblical Christianity is not popular but popular Christianity is not biblical you know so yeah so I posted a video like something taking something from the Bible and being like hey look at this you know and they're like well you should you should do this or that you know I can't really I can't remember what the video was like. But it was taking something that was like more like like a traditional view on a topic. Yeah and because the world is so like like modern now they're like no you should do it this way the world was saying do this but I was like no God says to do this you know. Yeah I know I listen religion is like another deep topic and very heavy topic but like I've said this several times I think that a society that is like too secular it does not have like any religion at all. To me it doesn't even matter if it's like old new whatever like I think that just like nothing is probably the reason why a lot of people are depressed and having anxiety and are like sad in their life. I think it's good to you know believe that there's something out there that's bigger than you. I think it's a very healthy way to look at life but that's also interesting how like people look at people who are religious and believe in God and Jesus or I mean like if you're Christian believe in God and Jesus and whatnot there's like different versions within that but what can you do you can't keep everyone happy that's the whole point of content you can't keep everyone happy right and you shouldn't try to. Yeah because it's really it's really tiring trying to get it. Yeah keep everyone happy so I think like what I try to do is just keep myself happy because I'm the one who's actually creating content and then try to keep the majority of the people happy. I'm not going to make everyone happy because some things that I do people don't like it you know like the fact that I wear skinny jeans instead of baggy jeans people don't like that I know it was actually yeah people know me people know me on TikTok as a skinny girl skinny jeans girl I'm like what these aren't even that skinny but like I didn't realize I was like a point of. So when I said you were a non-problematic creator I'm a liar apparently you're like calling me. Well because I guess I'm different but I'm not afraid to be different you know it's okay to be different. I actually think that a good creator has to be a little bit different because if you're just like everyone else you don't stand up. Yes exactly yeah I like that because I think that when you start like even when I started this podcast I would like wear like the suit and I was all like proper and like I was like scared to talk about like so what I had to learn over six years about bringing myself into the conversation and the podcast and being more mean just being like chill you just figured out in like three months like this is that yeah I think that's also because I was homeschooled because I didn't care about what the world thought that's such a superpower though yeah it is super power but like my whole world was just like animals and learning as much as I could well I wanted to be a marine biologist that's why I keep that kind of thing. Oh my god another job another job. Well yeah because like I was living in Spain at the time so like I was always next to the beach you know but so like my whole world was just learning as much as possible you know experiencing as many cultures as I could you know and then when I moved to the US to Florida I was more like with kids my age you know and with kids I went to public school and I was like whoa it's so different and I was like where is this place yeah but you I mean like that's I think that's like why you've been successful because you've been exposed to so much I by the way I think that like that's another great you know like hats off to parents for like raising you the way that you were raised because I think that the exposure to different cultures different people that is a that is an incredible way to raise kids if you can do it I get that not everybody can do that because traveling is expensive I get it but who's having this conversation with I can't remember it was it really it was a really cool CEO basically the conversation was about like how to raise kids properly because this was like a focus that he had and he said that the even if you can't like take your kids abroad just expose them like a different culture like even in like the same country like even if like you're from like New York like go to like go to like Louisiana go to like Miami like this is so big you know you don't even you get everything here exactly yeah yeah yeah yeah I think that's very smart when you post your content I know that obviously it's great if it goes viral but the community you've built what is like the metric you look for that's not a social media metric is it messages saying like how much you've helped them is it just like what is the thing that you look for that you know that this is a piece that did well that like change somebody's life that uplifted them that maybe you don't see which is views or shares or comments yeah I think it's yeah usually like when they're like oh this helped me know or this changed like this changed my perspective that's one of them that I was like well I love that or also I used to post a lot when I was going through my surgery and stuff I posted a lot of videos about my healing journey because I've had four surgeries in my life so I've hosted a lot of videos about that and people were like the fact that you are where you are today is helping me get like push through this you know has your faith really influenced type of content you make at all outside of like the pieces that are talking about faith has it changed other things about you as a creator I think so definitely because like my channel like I don't use any audience that have bad words and if they do have bad words I bleep them out like I go beep which is something like iconic now you know it's like my thing so people are always like oh that iconic beep you know but I think my faith has definitely changed my content and what and in what way or what do you what do you focus on is just because you want to be more positive more uplifting or more family friendly more family friendly because even if like a channel is family friendly or if it's just a girl like talking about fashion or something like that or like lifestyle you can tell that like I wouldn't want my six-year-old watching this you know just because maybe they're wearing very sexual clothes you know or like they're talking about very controversial things you know I try to keep my my channel's family friendly as possible you know when you think about like the opportunity for new creators do you think that they're where do you think the biggest opportunity is if somebody's like trying to start now I know you're gonna say like do what you like doing and do create content for yourself but say there's like 10 different things that somebody can create content about and they and they want to create content similar to yours I'm not talking about like doing like politics or sport like they want it like what should they focus on should they focus on family friendly faith-based is there even like more of a niche that you feel like people could go after right now that you've seen successful yeah uh right now like for me the niche that is like most popular just because I'm a teen girl is like romance rich so like boys when I have like when I talk about a boy in a video or something that usually does pretty well but like I like to keep my personal life off of social media you do yeah yeah so or like I share a lot of my personal life on social media that's probably why my community is so close to me but like my romance is definitely off of social media until like it's serious you know I appreciate that is there like certain things that you definitely don't bring on to social do you bring family do you bring I bring family like I bring my siblings into videos and they also have their own YouTube channels which they're trying to grow so you don't mind bringing family and obviously because they're other creators but it's your things you definitely don't outside of just like romantic I'm trying to think like there definitely has to be something like oh when like when my family is going through tough times financially for example you know or like we're not getting like we're not getting along very well yeah so like the stuff that is like just family matters I think that's smart though I think that there's I think that I think that being authentic doesn't mean bringing everything into it and like trauma dumping online exactly yeah trauma dumping yeah yeah I got me you know what I mean I think that you can be like strategically authentic and I think that you know listen you can talk about things that happen that are like difficult like even if you have like an argument or a family thing happen like maybe there's like a lesson from there but that like comes up like there has to be like a delay has to be like give like a year before you bring that stuff up online well actually so one time it was I it wasn't spaying but my mom like I don't know how I came up but my mom basically like lectured me on something and I took a lesson from that I was like this is very very smart I'm gonna make a video out of this so I made a video and people were like wow the fact that you went from like this lecture you took out this good thing from it and you put it on social media you know it's it's so rewarding and and you're just taking the things that happen in your life again it's like you just look for what's happening in your life you bring it into the content yeah exactly so you are 16 you have five million subscribers what is life like do you get recognized places is it stressful I well so there are pros and cons to the social media world and like pros are you get so many opportunities you know I've been able to go to web summit and I was able to speak in front of a large audience you know I've been able to do so many things because of social media and I've also made so many amazing friendships because I'm a youtuber you know but obviously the cons are like I have like older men watching me and that's a little bit you know like it's it's definitely something you have to be aware of because it kind of controls how much you put on social media you know like like you have to be you have to respect your privacy you know your personal life that so because I share so much of my personal life I also have to be aware of the dangers you know that I'm putting this information out there for the world to see the entire world I know and there's a lot of a lot of people like five million that's what's tough right like when you put yourself out there listen in a group of five million people some of them are going to be like a little bit weird like you and I think that that's where you have to be I mean that obviously like you work with your parents like they're on board with this whole thing you're building out so I'm sure that like you're very careful about who you connect with like who you work with like I think you just have to be aware of it though you know yeah and also something like a lot of people don't know about this like about my content strategy is I post all of my content two weeks after recording it so like I went right now in theory on social media I'm in Lisbon Portugal but I went to Lisbon two weeks ago and by the time this comes out you'll be somewhere else in the world the exact probably yeah yeah yeah yeah but so that's just kind of like a safety thing you know so that if somebody's trying to find me base of off of my content they can't find me because have you had scares not really like like I've had creepy men like email me and like find my number but apart from that people are very weird most of your friends now I'm assuming are creators correct yeah so talk to me about sort of like your your peer group your support group like how you guys work together I'm assuming this is like a anybody who's looking to create content this is probably a smart strategy surround yourself with other other content creators yeah so like growing up I didn't have that many friends because I moved around so much and that was homeschooled so I don't really oh that's also a thing that most people going into homeschooling are like kind of like eh because they're like how are you gonna be able to have friends or socialize with other kids your age and I didn't I did socialize with a lot of kids my age because of gymnastics but apart from that I didn't really socialize with anybody I usually socialize with my parents friends you know so you just have like you have more mature cooler friends and the average kid yeah more mature friends yeah so now that I'm in college I have a lot of college aged friends so like my friends all are in the like 20s they're in the 20s but I can really you know I can resonate with them you know and I can communicate with them on a level that a regular 16 year old cannot you know how important is outside of like just like the the you know college friends do you have like like a group of like creators that you yeah so I don't have any college friends because I do online college like I've been oh okay so the 20 year olds you're talking about are like other creators are content creators ah okay okay okay but they're in their college years you know they're yeah so like my best friends angelo vahu and jenny ojos they're like my my closest friends because we live super close each other but they're my content creator friends I think they're like my first content creator friends or actually my first ever content creator friend is a Maxwell gamer he has he has like a million subscribers but or sorry three million subscribers but we started creating content in 2024 so like after I blew up or like when I was blowing up and people actually shipped me with him and we were like it was the first time meeting each other and people were already shipping us because I guess we wait what does that mean shipping us so like they basically thought we looked cute together as a couple so they're like they're like saying like you guys should be together yeah you guys should date yeah you know that was a thing really no I don't never heard the I'm old I've never heard the word shipping like I didn't know that until like when I got shipped you know I was like ship like what do you mean in the so people find content creators that they think would be like good and like doesn't matter if they even like want to date it's like you two would be good together yes and then it's wild yeah it is wild it is wild and like Maxwell and I didn't even really know each other at that time you know it was our first time meeting meeting up but people were shipping us and then the good thing about shipping though like online shipping that just that's just out of your but it helps both of your guys' channels because it like people are excited about the next thing you post you know um but yeah so I was shipped with him and then we'd unce each other until like later that year but then I met Angela and I met Jenny um and then I met Angela's sister Mariah who's also a content creator but so I met them and then now I have this friend group which I love they're so amazing we've got we've got a couple of different content creators and we all make such like different types of content like one of them does cooking videos or one of them goes to restaurants and tastes tastes food you know the other one does beauty uh one of them does challenges you know they all do these different things but because we're all content creators we all like resonate and we understand each other on a deeper level do do um do you collab a lot yeah yeah I mean with Angela and Jenny I see them the most often so we collab but it helps like it helps the grow channel to do these clasps yeah and also when you um there are multiple events throughout the year so like VidCon and VidSummit uh I went to VidSummit in 2024 and I actually met one of my best friends his name is Brody Bowling I was also uh shipped with him a lot but he's actually run my closest friends now so so it's like it's all about like collaboration and then I'm assuming these people push you to to create better create more do you bounce ideas off each other yeah sometimes they're like I'm last year for example um Jenny, Angela and I like met up and we're like what are our goals for next year you know we told each other our goals so that we could push each other to achieve those you know so like the the lesson is like you don't have to create on your own you don't have to be like you know some loner creating content like go find people that are creating to go create with them yeah if you want to change the world you have to get a team you know you have to make friends well it's it's wild to me how you are 16 and you know all this stuff that is 100% true when there's like 40-year-old adults who don't get it yet but anyways that is that's a whole other thing thank you but I yes yes why like I hate that I hate the the line like self-made because no one self-made it doesn't exist it doesn't it doesn't matter if you uh have like a team a partner customers investors like you didn't just like make a business with nothing else even if you built the business yourself I mean what you don't want to play you know the customer how do you build the business of the customer what are you self-made so we have to buy your stuff right exactly yeah yeah yeah you had people working for you and helping you yeah no one self-made um what would be advice to you know I mean like how old are people now when they start content I was gonna say yeah younger content creator but I'm assuming people start very young yeah like I think like most of my friends they started when they were 10 or we're like 14 you know like yeah yeah what was I doing when I was 10 especially if you want to start if you know that you want to do content creation you start really early yeah so the question really was what was the advice for somebody who's just getting started who's 10 because there's now it's not just the creator you're speaking to the creator who's 10 to 14 plus their parents at that stage right so what's your advice for somebody's like I want to be a content creator parents listening to this oh my god I just wanted to have like a doctor or a lawyer I do not yeah youtuber now I get what you mean so what's your advice to them how do they pick a topic what should the parents think about what's sort of like the playbook for somebody who's just getting started I think topic just choose something that you love because if you don't choose something that you love you're gonna be doing it you're gonna be doing something you hate for the rest of your career and like you can like switch your content but that's really hard because you already have an audience that's there for that content for that specific content but for the parents um don't set unrealistic expectations on your child because even though they're trying to do this it's not guaranteed that they will succeed you know just like without anything else but don't put too much pressure on yourself and just keep going and never give up is there something that you wish you knew when you first started creating content that you know now um I mean I feel like there is but I think it would just be that it's not a straight straight line it's gonna go up and down up and down you're gonna have really bad months or like a really bad year where your content's not doing good and then you're gonna have other years where you're popping off you know you're doing really good um but just know that in these moments that there is gonna be a better time you know yeah if you just keep that's the thing like keeping up with it yeah if you look to the future see yourself at 25 years old so what do you where do you want to be when you're 25 do you still want to be a content creator do you want to beat door are you like that was a great part of my life I've already retired from gymnastics I'm gonna retire from YouTube I'm gonna be a pilot I'm gonna be a photographer what do what do you want to do yeah well so I I retired gymnastics not because I wanted to I'm medically retired yeah um but I do want to be a content creator as long as I possibly can because the YouTube community is just so incredible and it gives you so many opportunities so I want to be a content creator as long as possible but when I turn 20 I want to get hired at Latam Chile uh which is an airline in South America because I'm also Chilean uh so I want to be a pilot that's like my main goal it always has been it always will be um but what you said about photographer like that was like growing up we were always told to have plan A plan B plan C you know just in case plan A totally like doesn't work yeah it totally explodes so plan A is to become an airline pilot plan B is to become a news reporter because I love the news I love watching the news and I love podcasts and I love reading books and all this kind of stuff but news reporter or photographer for national geographic because I love animals and then plan C is during the military so join the Air Force I feel like I feel like I'm sure whatever you do is gonna work out I have no doubt mostly because of who you are and like the fact that you get after it and you probably you know it's so funny you have like four different plans but I don't feel like you have the personality to let anything not work I'm serious I feel like you're just like you know what like it's it's nice to have like four plans but like I feel like plan A works because you don't stop until it does and do yeah but that's just a personality thing that's and if you don't have that personality like I think it's a good you know personality to try and to try and adopt like YouTube anybody can be a YouTuber anybody can be a creator if they want to what does it take well you build systems you figure out what you want to create you post 60 pieces a week you'll figure out how to be a YouTuber real quick if you're posting 60 videos a week trust like you will figure it out you'll figure it works what doesn't what you like what you don't like what resonates what gets views it gets subs it gets follows whatever how do you evolve your content oh that's actually a very interesting question um I usually just like okay I didn't always um yeah I didn't always I'm trying to think of something that I didn't always do that now I do a lot and I've put into my content well you've moved your content I mean like you moved your content forward you've had a faith you've added more of your life you've had a different topics but like etc etc but I mean like as you grow older how am I gonna like so deaf uh next year I'll start training for my ppl which is my private pilot's license so I'll definitely do a lot more flying content you know um and also I want to publish books and I want to travel more and I want to do so many other things I have a whole list on my phone it's like seriously yeah my 2026 New Year's resolution list you know and every year I come up with this resolution list you know the things I want to cheat and my content like my channel like I just bring them along you I just bring them along on and then I grow with you exactly yeah when you think about sort of as a creator you're branching on to different things so if tell me you're tell me your growth on YouTube um because I know that I was just looking at a little chart but you went from zero to five million more or less and how long two years two years which is insane growth right um very successful it worked when you try and do like a new type of content how do you think you're writing a book this is this is your book you know where am I youtubers that's the book it's gonna be out when this podcast is live um that's a new type of content if you sell five million books in two years incredible right that's an insane amount of books yeah I don't know if it's gonna happen but like good if it does good but um when you think about a new type of content because you got really good at one how do you figure out how to do another one successfully yeah I mean I don't really think about like success you don't you just do it I just do yeah because I think when you think about success and how to be successful you put this like standard or this thing you have to live up to and that kind of like makes you feel pressured into doing it you know so like I want my book to be successful but if it's not successful it's okay I'm gonna try again and I'm gonna write another book you know but I think when you you're like oh how can I be like when you're just starting out and you're like how can I how can I be successful I think that's the wrong mindset you should be more like how can I go to be successful okay so if people want to connect with you I'm obviously where am I youtubers that's gonna be available everywhere you can get books amazon other socials that you want to drop so yeah my tiktok tiktok where do you send people yeah tiktok is just jewels and youtube is just jewels instagram is just jewels and I also have snapchat so just everything's just jewels you've taught a lot on this podcast but if you think of the most important things that you've learned in your own life the things that have been like the most meaningful to you and it doesn't have to be about cognitive content faith work ethic I don't care anything what's like one lesson that you want to pass on to your kids and what to forgive I think because like as a gymnast I was always really hard on myself because I always wanted to be perfect I always wanted to get that 10 you know that's perfect score but I learned to forgive myself especially when I make mistakes you know I make mistakes all the time I'm not perfect I'm a sinner you know and I usually I'm like really hard on myself on that but I think that's one of the reasons why I'm so successful but at the same time if you don't forgive yourself and you and if you don't forgive other people you're just going to lead a miserable life you know you're always going to be holding grudges and it's just gonna you're just your soul is just gonna get heavier