Darren Prince - Agent to Magic Johnson & Muhammad Ali | Why Success Made Me Sicker

I don't want people to be motivated or inspired by my business success. I want them to try to look in the mirror and be accountable. When you take full ownership, that's usually when the healing journey starts. He was a celebrity agent to the biggest names in the world, but behind the spotlight, he was fighting a battle no one could see. Darren Prince built a career representing icons, navigating the highest levels of sports and entertainment. But while he was managing legends, addiction was managing him. Most of the successful people that I know are living it from an external space. The toys and the flags really define, well, is finding your purpose and your passion from within. I believe I was a prime candidate to fall victim to drug addiction. I just had a huge head start and accessed because I was making real money. His journey from opioid dependency to long-term recovery became the turning point that transformed his life and his mission. Today, he's a best-selling author and international speaker and an advocate proving that success means nothing without freedom. When you're in an addictive state of anything, the biggest struggle is the lack of power. You can truly go through the dark and come out on the light. The strength is in being vulnerable. Not hiding it. When you're able to just come out and have that freedom of saying everything and not hiding it, the miracles start to happen. So, I am the best version of my fucked up self I've ever been. Darren, what does that mean? Well, now being 17 and a half years sober and doing so much awareness work, personal development work, character defect removal, couples still pop up once in a while and there's nobody out there that doesn't have shit, there's nobody out there that doesn't have unresolved trauma. Some suppress it, some bring it to a surface and to live this authentic, transparent frequency. I don't want people to be motivated or inspired by my business success. I want them to try to look in the mirror and be accountable for not looking at your mother, your father, it's their fault, it's the ex-husband, the ex-wife. You made those choices for whatever reason. And when you take full ownership of it, that's usually when the healing journey starts. And David Goggins is a good friend and client. I'm in town for his event tomorrow. And he always says that everybody's fucked up, you know. For somebody to say they're not, you're suppressing a lot of stuff. And most of the successful people that I know, that don't want them at that, are living it from an external space. And they're doing it with the toys and the flax. And sort of we just talked about how you and I really define wealth is finding your purpose and your passion from within and sharing that with the world just like you're doing. So like I said, I'm so grateful and appreciative. Definitely on here because what you've built and the messages that get sent around the universe to help people is tremendous, not just professionally, but personally. I appreciate that a lot. And I think we're very much on the same wavelength when it comes to like what defining success and wealth and whatever, whatever you want to achieve in your life. I think that when people are very young and I think you're an extreme example, people look at sort of the wrong, they get the wrong role models. They look at, okay, how do I make as much money as I possibly can make in the quickest amount of time possible? How do I achieve sort of like the material success? And I think it's even worse now because of Instagram and social media than probably it even was when you were young. But your story is very interesting because you achieve that material success at an incredibly young age, like much younger than most people ever, ever achieve it. Tell me how you achieve that success, but also tell me what it did to you. I grew up in Livingston, New Jersey, and you know, you would have thought from the outside of the, you know, super happy young kid, loving family, you know, I had one sister. And I just never fit him and I always felt socially awkward. It was always like I felt like I had a imposter syndrome for a very young age. And a lot of it when I look back at it was because I was in very small classrooms. A lot of times my friends were in the big classrooms 50, 60 kids and I was put in rooms like this with for your father, people known as the special ed crew. And I heard about it. I heard crickets. I heard teas and I was verbally teased and you never spoke up about it, but I just knew school wasn't for me. And my first experience with drugs were at Sleepboy Campos, about 14 and I terrible stomach pains one night and the cancer typically to the nurse. I didn't rise looking back on it. It was separation anxiety. I grew up a mom as boy. Didn't like being away from my mom and dad and she gave me this green liquid. I took it, it tasted terrible, but walking across the softball field back to the bunk, my life changed forever, man. I mean, I felt like Superman. I didn't know what it was, but I was just as popular, just as cool, just as smart, talking with the guys, flirting with the girls at the bunk's next door. And I did this for a few straight weeks, not realizing until my mom and dad came for visitation day. That it was liquid demoral. You know, back then it wasn't a controlled age with substance. And I started that next year when I got back home. I had four different odd jobs. I squeezed orange juice to the supermarket. I worked at a pizza where I was a stock boy at a sneaker store. And I was a bus boy, had a diner. So I would say, well, that money and buy all my friends' baseball car collections. And my father noticed that I could read the back of a baseball car in the 1980s. And literally almost had a photographic memory with numbers. And we would sit in front of the TV. I'd start talking about statistics. And he was mesmerized by it. And one day, an intro to business class teacher, I'm still close with this to this day, Elliot Lovie, challenged the class to go home and create a business. Now, in my mind, I had thousands dollars for the baseball carts. I just never had a plan to execute how to sell them. But I knew from certain trade papers that I was getting, there were these things called baseball cart conventions. So I'd go downstairs to my dad. I'm like, hey, I need insurance for my baseball carts. It looks to me like I'm crazy. I wish it was alive today because he would love the way I tell the story. And insurance, he's like, how much do you have? I'm like, Dad, I probably got about eight or nine. And he's like, all right, I'll call homeowners and try to get like a thousand dollars worth of insurance in case there's ever a flood or got a bit of fire. I'm like, no, Dad, eight or nine thousand. And he looks at me like, I've got three heads. How the hell do you have eight or nine thousand with the carts? I'd go back upstairs and get the price. I got a start showing them. Well, who's going to buy them? I pull out this big newspaper at this big. It was at the holiday and back then, 1984, on Highway Route 10 for anybody from New Jersey listening and living stand. And it was $20 to buy a table. So I executed. I mean, I wasn't a student in school. But when he came to this, my dad started realizing my brain worked with numbers and being a sponge with him from his got into business. He said it was mesmerizing. So now that came with the confidence. So like, I'm like, Dad, support. And every day after school, whatever I had to do, he owned a type setting and design company. I would call them and have them make beautiful signs. I bought display cases. I made sure this was going to be the most beautiful six foot display you've ever seen. And became a big family affair in that Sunday. I actually set up ironically with my best friend, one of my best friends, Steve Simon, who runs my agency. Now we go back since I was 10 years old. And he's one of my top agents at Prince Mark and a group. He went in for the hobby. He spent like two hours the day of throwing some carts in a shoebox. And when I spent two weeks. So when people are listening and talk about preparation to doing a business, nothing just happens like that. Of course not. And two weeks when you're talking several hours at night to prayer prayer for this, I was ready. You know, I knew the market. I knew the business. I had my display laid out. You know, I remember there was no social media back then. Computers were limited. And I went in like, this was my new career. And I made over a thousand dollars at afternoon. And Steve made like 30 bucks. And that was, how old are you again when you're doing? I was 14. So just to paint into picture, 14. You're not, you figure out how to make money. But also you figured out the effects of drugs on confidence and identity, really. This is very young to be dabbing in this shirt. Yeah, that's very, very, okay. So you made that was kind of a perfect storm, but not at the same time that I went home that night. And the one feeling I remember I wrote about this in my book aiming high that I, you know, I published in 2018 was I remember getting home and it was so euphoric. I felt so important on this show floor. Like the energy was flowing. People were running over to me. Like I was this hot shot, well respected young kid that knew about the rookies, the minor leakers, the top prospects. And I started making friends with people and I actually felt like, you know, this was school. Like, and I was the head of the class. I was the valvictorian. I was the wine. And all my friends who've sold me their collections again were making fun of it. We do want those stupid cards. Like, cards are corny, bro. Like we got out of baseball cards years ago. Anita's his type years later when they all came back from college break. I started hiring one of them. One at a time. A bunch of one at a time to work for me because they couldn't believe what I built. So that night though, when I was 14, Scott, like I went from like this year for work feeling to all of a sudden, this empty feeling. So there was some unbelievable attachment to the external validation of that $1,000 that I made of the high interest. Of course, it's a high when you make fun. And I couldn't figure out why this happened. It was Sunday night getting ready for bed to go to school. And it went from like this to this. So, you know, looking back at it that time my life, I believe I was a prime candidate to fall victim to drug addiction. I just had a huge head start and access to get whatever I needed because I was making real money. By the time I was 15 years old, I was making a couple hundred thousand dollars a year selling baseball cards. I was literally the first person that stayed in New Jersey to buy a cell phone. It was called Bell Atlantic. And the phone was $3,000 back then. It had huge aluminum battery pack with the rubber antenna. And the phone clipped on top of this aluminum battery. And it had this leather case. And I had it in my locker. So, I'd be running ads in a magazine that still around to the state called Sports Collectors Digest. And I would have stockbrokers calling. And you couldn't text back then on cell phones, but it did have a voicemail attached to it. So, in between class, I would run to my locker, listen to the messages, eat real quick. And be making notes, writing down notes from these stockbrokers that were called because somebody might have wanted a Mickey Manel rookie that weekend. So, whatever it might have been. Joe DiMaggio, Babe Ruth, could be a modern day. The popular guy's back then, strawberry maddening with weight box tonic when they want to five of this, five of that. So, I just became a broker to all these guys. 14, 15, 16, you make a couple hundred thousand. I've always thought about this. Actually, you just mentioned something that I think is actually very true. The same personality that is required to be successful in business, like the obsession over what you're doing and all the preparation and the reason why you made a thousand bucks and know what else did, that personality is a dangerous personality. You got it because you get addicted to anything. So, that same personality that makes you successful, that could be drugs, any kind of gambling, women, whatever your vices. I had all of it. But if you know how to channel it, it can be very useful that personality. But you experience all this stuff way too young. Way too young. And there's no handbook. There's no parent. Charlie Schoen's a dear friend and client too. And he's got New York Times best selling book out. It's been on their flick eight weeks and incredible things happen and screw up this Netflix documentary and other things. And we really identify with this because he's like, even though his dad and his brother were already there, he goes, too, there's just there's no way to like, understand it. You know, I was out here six months ago with my boy Ryan Federman and Mike Tyson. We had a van at the hard rock. Mike and I got a real talk about this. And he's like, Prince, I get him, man. 19 years old. I'm the baddest motherfucker on the planet, knocking people out. I got a couple hundred million to the bank. Who gave me a cotton handbook? I had a deal with it. So it's so easy for people to like, look at me or them or whatever. What it, no, that they're, it's, it happens. And there's a reason it's going to happen again. And these influencers now, when you see someone I'm taking their own lives at young ages, because when we think it's about the money, when we think it's about the stuff and the things and the mansions and the jets and the jewelry and the life and the woman are to shopping, whatever that might be, and you get there. And guess what? You realize you're still unfulfilled? It is the most dangerous, scariest, loneliest place the human being can ever be. Because I've been there. And then you have the resources to fuck up your own life. Yep. That's the biggest issue. You're like, what's going to make me feel that same feeling when you got the self-sabotage, the destructive behavior and getting out of sense of self, because at a competent age, I'm not just saying this is for young people. I mean, somebody could be grinding after 10, 15, 20 years. We have a lot of friends that made it big in their 30s, 40s. But again, if you're not doing that work, if you're not doing that inner work, and sense itself, the brokenness, the character defects, the unresolved trauma and you're just suppressing it. And it's just that one goal to build scale and exit. I do not want to be, I don't care what amount of people for you. What was that point when you kept chasing after that you're making $100,000 before you're even 20, which is insane for somebody who's 16, 17 years old? What's the point when it all blows up? I'll give you a little bit in between that, so we can lead to where it blew up if that's okay. For sure, go ahead. So at 19, I sold the baseball car company for a million dollars. It was by inventory, it was my database. And back then, I didn't need to stay on. It was just, I had an invasion where I started getting enamored with autograph signings. I'd be at convention. I'd be like, wow, people are wrapped around the corner to see Joe DiMaggio, Mickey Mantle, and Pete Rose. And I saw one time like, Muhammad Ali was coming to one. I was like, this is so much cooler than baseball cards. Wow. So I wanted to start learning that distance. And we did that for about four years. Now, the reason, just the first time I really hit business adversity, the reason I got out of that was, and I'm very open about it, there was a forgery scandal going on with Michael Jordan litographs. And there was an FBI forensic document expert that the industry was praising as a guru for authentication. And big, big investigation by the FBI. I got investigated, got cleared of mail fraud charges because I truly believe the stuff was real. But there was this whole sort of assembly line of different artists forging his name and the FBI, retired FBI forensic agent went to prison. And so my father, some of the greatest lessons, he could talk about me were three things. It's not what you say, it's what you do. Your reputations, the hardest thing to uphold, and the easiest thing to lose. And that one, that one was really what mattered to me at that time or anything. And he would always say the idea was 1% carrying off through the other 99. So I took whatever I had and I started sending a refund letters, I had to get lawyers involved. I mean, Scott, for the first time of my life here, I'm now 24 and I'm like financially ruined. And so even then you're just worried about going to jail at this point. Yeah, now I'm at the point where I'm already going to go to jail. And I had incredible relationships from booking different autographs on it because a lot of people wanted to know how did I get all these clients. That's why I wanted to give you the background. And I took my last $3,000 and took my father on a fly fishing trip to Alaska. It wasn't happy about it because he knew I was in the balls and my ass, but I knew fishing was our favorite thing to do. And Prince Markham Group would not exist. Did I, if that trip didn't happen, route on this gorgeous stream. And he says to me, what's your next move, fellow? When you, when this all works out, like you're going to go back into that industry, good daddy, you know what, I'm so pissed off. All my people, that were friends and fans, like their haters and people are like, turning their back on me. I'm like, I don't care about that. I want to be an agent, but I don't have eight years to go to law school. He drops the fishing pole on this gorgeous stream and we have this guide with us and it's like law school. He gets down, he gets life is about who you know, now what, you know, think about your resources. Think about who supported you with this case, with the judge and send letters from, you know, magic and the allies and smoke and Joe Frazier and Joe Montana. And he's like, you know, he's giving one name after the Chevy chain like everybody. He goes, what I would do is the next time you see magic, tell him your vision. He goes because he's like family at this point. Even though you guys only go back about three, four years. So I was in a hotel sweet with magic a few weeks later. And it's kind of almost like I would have thought he might have spoke to my dad because they did speak and he's like, what do you think you're going to do next? And at that point, I was cleared. I was charged with like making a false statement because I sort of didn't give everything factual during the interview. So I'd like three years probation, but for the most part, the case against me, you know, firmly to go to prison. They knew I wasn't in the wrong. I just made a stupid mistake, trust him. Just one person. Quick question. What's your go to when you got 10 minutes before a meeting or a workout? For me, it just used to be whatever I could grab, which usually meant skipping meals entirely or just grabbing something that left me crashing an hour later because it was just full of garbage. That's why I'm partnering with Hule. 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You don't have to, not that you should never lie to the FBI. But just putting yourself in the shoes of a 24-year-old that made way too much money really quick, you had way more business success and most people even achieved in their life forget at 19 when you sold. Now you're being investigated by the FBI. Like, life is coming at you so fucking quick that it is really hard. For us to make it grow up really quick. To understand how to navigate this. Because I'm assuming I don't know what your dad or your parents did. But I don't think that they would have been able to give you the exact perfect playbook to navigate everything you went through. No one's, no one's. I like to have his indirect milk coupon advertising. But the one great bit of advice on a fishing trip was telemates, not what you know, it's who you know, and to speak to magic. So when I was with, I call him Irvin by his real name. I was with them and he asked me that question. I said Irvin, I want to become an agent. I said, I really think I can do this. I'm like, I'm learning quite a bit about how this works from speaking engagements and studying commercials. And I bought these books about how to contact different ad agencies and you know, learning about like merchandising convention for endorsements. Because all right, because who do you think you want? Because you need a big client. And you got that big billion dollar smile. I'm, I'm sweating. I'm in my hand for like, I got to get the question on my heart's pal. At the point, I'd sum 24, 25. And I'm like, ask him. You better ask him. So when those moments in life, if you don't say it. And I'm like, I'd like it to be you. And he goes, all right. And he smiles, goes, look, you're a good dude, man. And you made a mistake. And just seeing a God has great men and woman. And he's testing you. And he goes, and I love you. And I love your family. Because here's what I'm going to do. Get a good entertainment lawyer or find him if you don't have it. I'm going to let you represent me for two years. But if you don't use been a knock down every door to bring in all the celebrities he can to build this agency, I'm going to fire you before this year or so up. Because life isn't about how successful I become, Darren. It's about how successful I can make you and everybody else around me. Because when you got there, you're going to learn about paying it forward. I couldn't believe it. It was just so magical. And he was like, because I'm going to be a success. The world has never seen it. And sports and entertainment fast forward. We still laugh about it 30 years ago. Multiple in the Empire owns how many sports themes? 18th world championship now is player owner with the Dodgers. Sorry to say, another breaks your heart. It's OK. I was with them all the day, two hours after the parade. And it's just for somebody be such a visionary. But also do that to me and allow that where I could now bless other people. And so the success in the agency, life started real quick, man. I right after magic, it was Joe Frazier. And then Robin at the time in Pamela Anderson we had. And Chevy Chase. So I learned the business real quick. And the drugs really started accelerating the involvement in my life. But I learned about morality clauses. So I moved away from illegal drugs. And it became prescription painkillers. That was legal. So you're too smart for your own good? Yeah. And I had legitimate back pain side act. I was who was working at every doctor. So all my success came to me, whatever I wanted. And for six or seven years, it worked. I mean, I was a networking machine. I remember times, you know, I did a couple projects with Kobe Bryant. I mean, these guys just everybody just gravitated towards. And I was super comfortable in my skin when I was high, obviously, you know, around the biggest names in the world. And I often say when I speak, especially to high school kids, that what was once living to use turned out to using to live. And I don't know when that exact moment was. But it got to a point sort of like that metaphor you said before where I couldn't really get high anymore. Whatever I was taking or mixing or whatever a cocktail, it was just making me function. There wasn't much more. You're a warrior coming to the point where, you know, there were multiple overdoses. And the last one happened in 2007, late 2000, now mid-2007, MBI Alstrad break in Vegas. One of my clients was celebrating a big TV show deal that we did. And I was married at the time. And that same Steve Simon that runs my agency now to the first baseball coach, we were getting ready for an event, he came up to my room. And I took, I had vodka, Red Bull, snorted a few oxy-cons. I had Tussinix co-off syrup because I had bronchitis that day that I got diagnosed with, said, doctor gave me anything I needed to get from the pharmacy. And man, I was on the ground. I mean, I don't remember anything. Foaming up my mouth, my eyes just sweating hot flashes, chills, the paramedics came into the room. Oxygen mask on my face, needle in my arm, EKG machine everywhere, clearly I never made it out. Then I put Steve, had to see that horrific picture. He came to the room to see if I was ready and saw paramedics everywhere. You know of me just, what the hell's going on? And that next day I finally had a little bit of accountability where I got home back to New Jersey and I called a Addiction Psychiatrist. But I lied to him too, so it was a process. He told me I was an opiatic, put me on to boxing, and I didn't tell him I was sniffing in, but yet at night I was still drinking a couple days a week. I was on a mood stabilizer, I was taking Xanax every once in a while, and that just got to a point where I was a shell of myself making millions of dollars, biggest names in the world, living in this double life. None of it meant anything. And that God shot happened on July 1st of 2008. My uncle Stu, who's no longer with us, was the citizen of my mom in New Jersey. And he had a girlfriend up to Tom Andreia. They both lived down here on tray, still in Miami. And I never met her, Scott, but she walked into my condo and she's like, are you okay? And something came over me, a connection with this woman that I never have with anybody. And I told her, now I'm not, and she asked what was wrong. I told her everything. I told her everything that was going on with the drugs and the way that I was feeling. And she's like, do you realize your life's so manageable and you're an addict? And I said, yeah, she goes most importantly, she goes, I'm looking at all these photos. If you know all these big stars, do you realize that? This doesn't mean anything, because you don't mean anything to yourself. And you've been living this way for decades. And that broke my soul. And I started to cry. And I said, yeah, she goes, do you want the help? I said, I would love it. And she reached into her pocket. And she goes, you know what this is? And she goes, last week, I just celebrated five years sober. It's about five years sober, Quint. I could help you get the life on your wild streams. And she put me on a detox plan. It was the next night, it was July 2nd, 2008. I was back in the city with my then wife. And crawling out of my skin, detox pain, upsets stomach, nauseous. They were back in Miami, right? I called them. I said, I can't freaking do this. Forget it. I'm gonna call the doctor together. I really need to get my uncle straight to yell once the damn disease is talking. It's this immature child's BS behavior. You got to start dealing with your underlining, trauma and your issues and get yourself to a 12 step meeting. And you know, she's trying to support him in the background. I said, I can't do it. Forget it. I hung up the phone, ran in the bathroom, locked the door. My then wife is banging on the door, sterically crying. I think I'm gonna overdose. I'm going through all the medicine cabinets. Got looking for the non narcotic anxiety pill. She told me I could take to help with the cravings. And I came to bike it and extra shrimp, bike it into one of the bottles. And there's three opiates obviously to bike it in perc ascent, oxyca. But the crazy thing was we spent like an hour the night before cleaning out all the medicine cabinets to make sure there was no temptation in the house. So this in that moment, just for that split second, I remember thinking, wow, what a gift. I thought that was the God shot. But then I wanted to live more than I wanted to die. And the first time in my life, I thought of my knees, the bike it into this hand, then I screamed out to God, take the money, take the business, take the notoriety. If you can give me a single day of freedom and take me out of hell, I promise I'll take other people out of hell one day at a time. And it was a white light moment that my life in the bathroom and the carol I'm building changed forever because I had a burning sensation on this shoulder. And I'm deaf on my left here, I wear a cochlear implant once in a while, I don't have it in now, but I heard in my guitar, I heard a voice say, I've got you and you're ready. And I stood up, I flushed the pills, went into the computer, started Googling 12 step recovering mutings, found one in her church, 30 minutes later in the upper 80s, went downstairs, flagged attacks, there was no Uber back then in 2008. And I'm in this cab on this gorgeous summer night in July 2nd, 2008. And looking up, oh my God, what the hell just happened? For the first time in my life, I wanted to stay super more than I wanted to get high. And I walked into this church basement, not knowing what to expect, there's about 150 to 200 people. All addicts at alcoholics, who are a once-of-a-hopeless state of mind and the leaders, citizens, anybody, knew anybody coming back, anyone's suffering. And I believe God raised my hand because it went up with no problem. I said, I'm sick, I'm suffering, I'm suicidal. I don't want to live anymore, I need your guys help. I said, I've got so much to live for, but I don't care about it anymore because my drug addiction and substance abuse issue has gotten so bad. And I felt a part of something in that hour, especially immediately after saying that, that I never before had a bunch of grown men that walked over to me and they hugged me. And they told me things like, we got you. We know what you're feeling. We've all been there. Stick with the winners. It's easy to stay here, down that it is to come back. I learned about the five days added to the judgment, accountability, action and acceptance. And then the words are just blew me away, where a couple of them came over and put their arms around me and they said, we're gonna love you before we ever learn how to love yourself. And what I thought at that moment, when I was not my useless, the worst day of my life, sooner than later, turned out to be my very best. When you go through, because when you started doing drugs, you were like 14 years old. What age are you now at this? Oh, when I got sober, I was 38, 38. So from 14 to 38, so basically your whole adult life, you had something that was masking and covering. After that long, for somebody that is going through this, because it seems like you've probably been living in this state for longer than most people. I think that most people who have been in this state of drugs and depression, it's sad to say, they probably don't make it. They don't make it that long. So from somebody who's gone through it and lived through it and has learned to love himself and learn to reshape your identity, which you never had for the first 38 really years of your life. This program is one step, but what are some other things that you had to do outside of just going to this program that really allowed you to be successful and not go back? 12-step recovery meetings are great. You know, teachers, you've got the 12 steps. And if you Google the 12 steps, if you're not familiar with it, only the first step talks about alcohol or drugs. There are steps for living. Every single human can understand and appreciate the 12 steps. But for me, I wanted to be so uncommon in the recovery world amongst the uncommon. I always wanted to be different and I don't want to just do the program, the fellowship, like it's changed my life, it's saved my life. But one of the steps is continue to take your own person on the inventory when you're wrong, promptly emitted. Promptly emitted and that's the 10th step. And I'm like, but I don't want to have to keep promptly admitting if you're doing the same thing. I'm going to get to the root cause of that problem. I'm going to get back going to my subconscious. So, you know, my boy, John Avley, and I always say it's my trainer nutrition. He's a master NLP practitioner, done a lot of NLP and oral linguistic programming over the years. Some really deep life changing sessions. I've got my by lingerie that's been my meditation, life coach that, you know, wrecking all that like sound frequency and really taking me back into, you know, my inner child talking to myself and talking to moments with my mom or certain people to clear out that sense of forgiveness. And every single day I start to deep breath work, meditation. He actually customizes a lot for me, based on where I'm at in my life and bringing certain moments from the past into where I'm at now to like get even different layers of feeling. Then there's so much biohacking that I do for myself, you know, when I talk about this stuff, sometimes people are like, well, I'm not it's so expensive. Like, no, it's really not. Like, you can get a cheap grounding mat. You can take a cold shower. You could put your face into an ice bucket, like my fiancee Nutsa does every single morning to stimulate yourself. Get those brain waves going, you could go on a hike. You could drink more water instead of soda and crap. You know, you could learn to pray more. You can go to church. You can find, you can go to temple. You could go online and start watching on YouTube all the incredible people in the world that are giving you these gems from, you know, Chase Shetty, you know, it's a good friend of mine and Lewis Housen, Tony Robbins, and you like, you guys are giving them the tools. There is no excuse anymore. Like no matter how dark it gets, I've seen situations a million times where it's the mine, you know. I've found that the real self-esteem for me, slowly but surely once a day became a month, a month became a year was to give this gift away to help other people. So always living in a certain frequency, self-esteem has been built by doing a steamable axe. And then, you know, I've been able to, I told you earlier on my mom's when you're passing up or unveiling us today. Well, to go there with such gratitude and see her and my dad's plot, of course, there's emotions, but dad got me eight and a half years sober. Mom had me for 16 and a half years sober. Hulk Hogan passed away three months ago. Dear friend and client, dear friend are God-loving connection and what we've been through with each other and he's seen me from the lowest of low to the highest and I've seen him a beautiful blessing to have dinner with Nick and son who have known since it's a little kid in New York City two nights ago. I was with Magic after the parade, two hours after the parade. I mean, everything with my clients, the business part is so secondary now. And this is a successful people in the world. Magic got a multi-billion dollar empire, like, you know, times I've been around Mark Cuban and, you know, Genie Boss who just sold the Lakers, money never comes up. You know, so that, so when you're watching the people that are triggering, oh, that's the life that I want or find out why you want it first, identify is there, you know, something from that external scent? Cause no matter how many regular every day super mega wealthy people I know, they don't have the wealth of those names that I just mentioned and those people are never posting yachts and never posting jets and never posting jewelry and never posting they reflect why because they're whole within them. And it's easy to say, oh, well, they're gonna all fit. No, they've all had their challenges, but they've risen above it. And they get more joy at it giving. They get more joy out of doing all their philanthropic work. They get more joy as seeing other people succeed because they in their own way have done the work on themselves. So famous or not, like, I just think every single person has it in them. And I think all the tools are out there no matter what you're struggling with. My biggest blessing, as you know, cause I don't enough reading and watching my interviews is that I have my aiming high foundation. My five, a one C3 has been just, oh my God, man. The dopamine high that I get, but I'm maybe to get a call from a family member when somebody comes home from a treatment center where a family, you know, gets their mother back, their father back, whatever it might be. It's, it's unexplainable. I mean, I'll take that, you know, any day that we go for a multimillion dollar business deal, cause that's purpose, that's wealth, you know, that's changing lives and creating legacy for a mother or father, the children. And, you know, that just was one of the greatest things that I started aiming high foundation. Cause I, I knew when I was doing a lot of speaking when my book came out that there was people that had those white light moments, and all I could do was kind of be a voice, but I had no sort of white apps. I said, well, you should go to rehab, but I was like, I know enough people. I've got enough wealth in my real house that I guarantee if I start this, I could start getting some great contributions to donate 100% of the proceeds to scholarship people. I want to be there when the lights are turned on cause you always get that, you only get that small moment to make it impact. And I want to be that guy that says, good, you ready to go and pack a bag? Cause I'm in my office now in administration at this center over here. They're gonna get on the phone with you an hour or check and you win in a few hours. I'm taking care of everything. Every expense, I'm just wondering if you have an idea about, cause I know that this, I know that this moment in your life, it reshaped your relationship with money, wealth, success, all of it. This is what reshaped everything. It was like a wake up call, right? Why do you think people get so, get success in wealth, the things that they try and pursue? Why do they get it so wrong? Like how do we end up pursuing these things that really don't even serve us, that don't make us happy, that don't make us fulfilled? Because there's a different, I don't, I just don't understand how you can answer. What's the answer? I was with Gary Vay of a couple of weeks ago, at the same keynote event that I booked a bunch of clients and he always says it. Cause most people care too much about what other people think. And the ones that make and want to live in that frequency and like, oh, I'm showing you, there's showing you, there's so all things are possible. No, no, you're not. Cause even if you're at the few under a million, I know plenty of people that you're extremely poor next to, and they're not doing that. You're doing this cause you got a lot on resolve trauma, Mr. Mrs, so and so. And you want to flex from all the failure, from all the being made fun of the bankruptcy was ever might have been, cause you don't work on you. Because a person that's in a healed frequency, it's okay to do that. I'm not saying, don't post a vacation everyone to our proud that you just bought this new home. But living a vibration of what that wealth has now done, you know, show individuals whose lives they even packed it. That's the content that should be put out there. Not that, you know, a lot of make a wealthy people want recognition for the contributions what they're doing. But you know what, those are the stories that need to be published more. And especially like I said, someone has a lead on to realize these everyday people that want to be instant famous because they're not fulfilled with all their wealth. You know, don't just sit here and make it like you're doing all that to show people all things are possible. Give them a handbook, start your own charity where people can send in applications that they need real mentorship from you. Where how about this? How about a hand pick, a dozen people that fill applications that actually have real businesses that it might have are shot, that you invest in in finance, become their advisor, their partner. Those are the stories we need. That's somebody that the people that live in that frequency, because I've seen enough, they're healed. They get what real wealth is. We're blessed with real wealth and abundance so it can pay for all the other people. I have so much happening in my businesses right now. It is mind blowing. And it's because number one, I don't have the release but money that I use to. And Newt's will tell you, because you know, we're engaged, she's not only a client, I do nothing for me. I don't care. I need a couple of vacations a year, you know? If I go shopping, it's for sneakers, indeed it's in Nike's sweatpants and some t-shirts. I don't, all that stuff, I've lived it. I know it does make me happy. I love blessing other people. I love blessing my girls, my office in California, and my people back in New Jersey, and just putting smiles on other people's faces. And that just continues to deepen and strengthen that self-esteem, paying a forward others. It's so interesting how when you serve people, the money comes anyways. Dan, Flight Shimmer and I spoke a couple of days ago. I know you've had them and we had this conversation two days ago, I guess, dude, there's nothing better. 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I just wish that more people would just when they're trying to live and be successful and sort of achieve their purpose, if they just focused on giving everything that they've learned to the world, like teaching the world what they've learned or just helping the world, giving value to the world, the money comes anyways. The money always comes anyways. The money always comes, like there's never anybody who's like, I've given non-stop value to the world my entire life and I end up coming back to me and I can't pay my bills. I've never heard it. It doesn't exist. It just doesn't fucking exist. And I just wish people would, it seems like this whole hustle culture, the people you're talking about on Instagram or the posts and their yachts. And it seems like they're just trying to extract as much value from the world. Let me just take as much as I can from the world. That's the wrong way to think of a business, entrepreneurship, living. And like even, you know, you were making money and you were doing good work, but you were just like, you weren't living the right way. Exactly. You weren't living the right way. I was like, how do I serve myself, how do I serve myself? And that's what happened. Now on the other side of this, when you are healing and when you are looking at wealth and success in a completely different light, like people have to understand, it's not like you're not making money anymore at all, at all at all. It just means you are doing it in a way that is serving yourself, serving the world. You're not self-destructive. You don't have a, there's no limit now on your life anymore because the way you make money and the way you build a business and the way you sort of put yourself out into the world. Yeah, there's a business component to it, but also you're not gonna die of an overdose or kill yourself or God forbid do something that's illegal or wrong or immoral just because of the way that you operate. Out of the hundreds of entries I've done here the first person to ever put it out that way and I never thought about it, but I've done a lot of interviews and TV and talk shows and been on Q&A panels. And people actually asked me, am I still an agent? Because my passion is so much, but just like you said, no, that hasn't stopped. Like my week was crazy and I'm not, none of this is to name drop a reality. It was magic on Monday. They had Larry Bird do something in Naples yesterday. Like we're around all the guys, Charlie Sheen's gotta do something tonight in New Jersey. We're very blessed to have the talent that we have. I just choose not to talk about it all the time. People to maybe be a little bit more intrigued by my story like to hear some of those stories and like I've said, Gogans and speaking tomorrow night. But that's not what gets me fired off. This is not your identity anymore. No, I'm talking about it. I'm talking about it because I'm talking about not to name drop. I'm talking about it because it's real. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is what the schedule of this week was. I told you before we went on camera, what the week was like. The one that was the most emotional was going to do my mom's one year unveiling us at the cemetery. I told you and the fact that I'd such gratitude as heartbreaking and as to see her and my dad together on the same different plots next to each other. What a blessing that dad had me sober for eight and a half years and my mom had me for 16 and a half. That means more than any of the other stuff that's happening this week. I know and it's because like your identity is no longer just money, right? Your identity is service or the celebrity life or the celebrity life. There's a few words that you said, like a few quotes that I really, really like. One of them, I want you to tell me exactly what it means because I think it'll mean a lot for people that are going through a very hard time in their life or they're addicted to something. And keep it, when I say addicted to something, it could be addicted to work. It could be addicted to drugs. It could be addicted to a variety of different things. Can I have like food, can I have food, anything? Any addiction working out. And this is a whole other idea. Patrick, but David first said this idea and I actually really resonated. So if people don't believe in this not like a spiritual religious podcast, but I think this is a valid point. If people don't have a God in their life in a traditional sense, in a healthy sense, then they replace God with some other version of God and they worship something else. And worshiping something else, idolizing something else, to gain food, women, gambling, work, whatever it is, idolizing any of these things, it's again, self-serving and highly destructive. So you cannot idolize anything that just benefits you. Like your goal in life should be to give value, idolize nothing and just pursue giving value to the world and then all the other stuff will come back to you in the meantime. But you mentioned something about addiction and then I think addiction is the same as idolizing, is the same as unhealthy obsession, is the same as replacing traditional God with worshiping some other part of your life. But you said the opposite of addiction is connection. Explain to me what that means from somebody who is worshiping something, they shouldn't be worshiping. So Ironic let him if you watched my J. Sheddinger, but that's the one that blew him away the most. He's like, oh, is that powerful? You know, it's the truth. It's a disconnect, you know, addiction is, you know, when you literally have a disconnect of here. So when you get back, dialed back into a power greater than herself, but God of your understanding anything in life, we could take that power back because when you're in an addictive state of anything, the biggest struggle is the lack of power. So when you could take that back and stay in your truth no matter how the healing has to take place, the support group, whatever that might be, the individuals, the meditation, the prayer, the religious center's church's temples so you would go to, you're now surrounding yourself a vibration of a connection of people that understand that connectivity and what's needed to stay on that path because by meetings that can miss here and there, it's not the end of the world, but I just feel like a better person when I get to them because I often say, like I've said a many interviews, I want to be the highest vibrating spiritual being and I could be. I want to say what I mean, mean what I say and not say it, mean, in the heat of an argument dealing with the other earth people, I don't want to engage, I'd rather just feel all right than right, even if I know I'm right, just let it go because for any of your listeners, the minute you engage and the minute you give back that energy, I didn't care if you win that day, you've lost because your day's off. You know, you've now put yourself into a bad, bad energy space and it's just so bad, you know, if the twight is just being kind and being in service and knowing what our character flaws are, you know, like, look, we're not doormats. I understand we're human beings every once in a while, but it's also, as our parents, you say we know it, it's not what you say, it's how you say it. That's why I choose to say what I mean, mean what I say and not say, mean. Now, of course my human will occasionally, my sober sponsor, Steve, he's like my big spiritual brother, you know, we say he still tells me this day, once in a while, I can remember what I told you if you snap and it happens and you don't feel bad, he goes, that's when you're not a doormat. Occasionally, you just got to put people into their place. He goes, but it's the tone, it's the way you do it. You don't need to go like psychotic, but you do it to the point where you protect your energy, and this is also why the people you surround, a couple thoughts just on this topic, but the people you surround yourself with are so damn important because those are the people that give you the right energy, encourage the right behaviors. This is not a free big as components of drug addiction alcoholism right at the top, people, places and things. The people you hang with, the places you go and the things that you do will determine your recovery or the quality of your recovery, more than anything you ever do. And on the inverse, look at the other side of that, that can also be the reason why you do get addicted. And I actually think this is why isolation is so dangerous and we are more isolated than ever before after COVID. So if we're sitting at home and we don't have good community people around us and all of our input is social media and Twitter and argument and anger and animosity, that fuels addiction, that fuels bad behavior and I think that one of the first steps, one of the many steps and you sort of just said this, but is to get yourself into environments that are healthy, get yourself out of your own head and get yourself around people that can hold you accountable and lift you up. 100% I mean the isolation, look, I need to, even this morning on my grounding that with my, it was my grounding that was my hydrogen water, it was meditation, I got to work out and you know, eat clean everything I have to do because like, here's the thing, like healing is an ongoing journey. You're never fully healed. I choose to say I'm recovered from drug addiction because I do basically what I knew every single day to stay in that recover frequency. I just connect for a week or two, trust me, I know this is not a lifetime cure. I know it's a one day at a time. I love getting high. I'm gonna sit here and tell you, seven day after you lose, I love being high and isolating. I just can't do it successfully. That's what most real addicts that are on the path of sobriety understand. So without that connection of individuals that know what that's like, you don't stand a chance, but it's not just in drugs and alcohol, like I said, it's whatever your addiction or your character flaws had find that group online, whatever it might be, read those books to strengthen that connection, be around people that understand exactly what it is that you're going through. And especially ones that have more experience at it, go into the good side crossing over because you will, you'll take from them and you're helping them too because you're gonna remind them about what it was like a little bit early on, whether it was a shopping addiction, food addiction, sex addiction, gambling addiction, so many problems out there. And helping others, I assume, helps you. That's number one. It's number one. I've unfortunately seen people fail and die. I mean, I scholarshiped a guy during COVID and the wife, well, the ex-wife, she took, she got the kids away from home and she called me, we actually grew up in the same town and I spoke to the guy and called me great and Brandon Novak, one of my spiritual recovery brothers from Jack has, he got on the phone with the guy too and we're super pumped and the guy's like, thank you for this. I'm going to the treatment center and not tomorrow, left me a message and I just went into that weekend. Man, I did God's work again. Thank you, God. And that Monday morning, the woman called me and I could tell something's wrong in her voice and he left the center at Sunday night and they found them dead in the park. And it just set in at that time where I was like, I'm truly part of this fellowship where as terrible as the sounds that we need to see people fail and die so I can live, so we can live, to understand that this is life and death. Like there's people who are losing more lives from drug addiction and substance use and mental health than anything, anything. And I need to be on my eagum every single day to make sure that I don't take a step backwards, you know? And that opposite addiction is connection, the connection is everything for me to stay in that vibration. What is that? What is that? This is for people. This is the insignia for the famous side. At this point, I'm going to have to break out in a minute. This is alcoholics anonymous, and they basically, you know, this was the insignia June 10th of 1935 when the 12-step fellowship was formed. And, you know, certain old-timers, I apologize to disrespect, but I live in a different way. I like people to ask what it is because even yesterday at my mom's, we had a lunch for 30 people celebrating my mom. And one of the waiters came over to me and he said, man, I'm in recovery today because how much time do you have? And I was like 17, half years ago, man, I got seven. We had a meeting for like 15 minutes with each other. It's the greatest thing in the world. Here I'm after dealing with the emotions to see my mom and my dad trying to stay in gratitude. And I see this young waiter and we're in the corner of the restaurant talking about 15 minutes about. And so I proudly wear this because it's why you have me here. I also think that people underestimate how much of an impact they have on other people just by living a good life. I don't think the average person understands that people are always watching. And they're always looking and they're always wondering, not wondering. They're always saying, okay, so can I look up to this person? What have they accomplished? And you can be a role model in someone's life without ever knowing it. Like even the fact that you wear this and that waiter comes up to you, like that 15 minute conversation that's such an advantage. A big strange number. He goes, I'd love to stay and talk to it but you never know what someone else is going through. I just wish more people would be less selfish about life in general because if you realize that it's not just your life that you impact when you make stupid decisions or you're an asshole or you regress or you take something or treat somebody a certain way or it's like there's ripple effects to every single action. And there could be somebody who looks up to you who their world view is just shattered because you did something that you shouldn't have done. Yeah, well, no. And we've seen that on forex. Like people that are very highly respected and highly regarded, you know, and it's like I truly got to this place that I've set up before I interviewed my boy Omar. I said, I think on some other ones that probably I don't care about the money anymore. And I think that's why I manifest like I care about my purpose. And it's like if I lost the business and the world turns upside down financially and I lost the money and couldn't live where I live and drive the car that I drive, it doesn't change me. I'm moving to a little studio like this beautiful podcast studio. And I'm good because I found me, I'll figure life out. I know enough people out there at that. Darren Prince is gonna be okay because I found what matters the most. And it's an unbelievable feeling of like a super-paradid but it'll live that authentic and that transparent and share it with people in an effort to help so many that need to hear it and that are suffering. You speak at high school, you speak to kids, you mention that you really enjoy doing this. What scares you the most about a younger generation right now? Well, what's out there? I didn't have fentanyl. I didn't have some of the stuff that, oh, just the access. It's very scary. What's out there with them. And the access to it is like beyond. I mean, I've been not, I'm not a parent yet. Let's see what happens. There's obviously noots and I talk about it. I want to get married, but it's scary. And I knew I have kids, right? No, not yet. Oh, no, okay. That's next for us. I'm scared too. I am scared about like I want, I'm gonna have kids. I want kids for sure, but I'm scared. Yeah, it's a scary situation because I mean, they're always curious. Everybody's curious growing up and getting in with the clicks and certain groups of friends. And you don't want to sometimes that pure pressure. You don't want to kind of feel like you don't want to put yourself around an environment. I know very well to do younger kids that did fine. I never fell down that road, but they understood that. You're meeting people, you're experimenting. You're so, but nowadays it's so scary. What's out there? I mean, I hear so many stories of somebody just one time trying something and the parents lost their child. This is actually, this is not an issue that plagues a certain demographic. Like I know very, very wealthy. I know very wealthy families. Some good friends of ours that have lost their kids. It happens actually quite a bit in L.A. It's just, and it's not even addiction at this point. It's like party drugs that end up killing people. Yep. So, you know, I think that's what I said. It's just one night. One night a drink, something was in the drink, a pill, having an idea what was in it. Oh, you think you're taking something and it turns out to be something else. Yeah, well, I mean, so much as being like, just fentanyl now, man, they're putting it. I don't understand it. The philosophy I was like, like if I even at the mindset of being a drug deal, why are you putting something in something that's going to kill somebody? I don't get it. I don't understand it. It's making sense. Like, is it like, I'm like, since an aunt meant to kill everybody or like some people a bit of a bit like, just get high off it and feel good and wake up the next day. Like, I don't understand this. It's happening too much. Outside of fentanyl, what would be your, I mean, that's obviously the other concern. The other concerns, yeah. I think there are way too quiet up with success. And I'm pursuing this like Instagram version of support for Yards and bulls. And just in general, I don't think. I was at the White House three times during President Trump's first term, and I'll probably out there again, love him or hate him. I have a relationship with them from the celebrity apprentice days and his family's great. They've always been Donald's, always President Trump's, who has been a supporter to my charities and rehab stuff. And I got to get time with Kelly and Conway and Governor of Christy. And I told them, I was like, if you guys want to really help the mental health crisis and suicide and everything going on with this younger generation, why don't you start implementing in every grammar in high school, a self development course. If you start bringing in teachers that can teach them about self development and self love. Now you have the nerds, the geeks, the jocks, whatever group everybody wants to go. They're all in the same room together. And they can all throw out there and they're feeling and they can all be one. And now there's not anymore bullying and teasing because everybody's experiencing something. Part of the class would be, you have to live in full disclosure in this classroom or guess why? You're not getting to the next grade. That's what this is about. This is about, so you're ready to leave here and you take the next step to college. And then the role, you're going to look back at this course and this class that you've talked for six months, whatever right they, and say this is most impactful class you ever talk in your educational years. But they don't tell it. No, I know. I mean, we could do a whole podcast on things that I think are incorrect and wrong about education and what they teach versus what they don't teach. I love that. Everybody says it's an amazing idea. They loved it, but I don't regret it because I wouldn't be standing here with you sitting here with you today. But what a game changer it would be. But I think back now, if I had that at 14, think about your insecurities and things going, how cool would that be, man? Like in what a way to break bread and for everybody actually makes psychologically a healthier adult. Because again, most of the shit that you were talking about at the beginning, like why people pursue money or drugs or anything is because of some version of early childhood trauma that is implanted into your subconscious. And trauma doesn't have to be like, doesn't have to be bad. It doesn't have to be like, your parents were fighting. Exactly. No, it could be, well, your parents had ideas about what money is and isn't. And they always said, well, we can't afford that. So now there's something implanted in your brain about, now I've got to make more money. I'm afforded causing insecurity. I'm obsessed of nutrition. Or it could be, well, this nurse gave me this drug one time and I felt at a very young age when my brain isn't even fully, I don't think your brain's developed at 14. God forbid, no, it's not even developed till much later. So now you're just associating drugs with, okay, now I have a better, you know, I have more confidence and I have an easier time making friends. So that's a memory that's implanted in your brain. And you have all these memories that are implanted in your brain when you're just developing. And that shit does not leave you. Maybe you don't think about it every single day, but that isn't your subconscious until you die. Unless you get it out, talk about it, bring it to the forefront. And that's why a lot of people are 30, 40, 50 or why can't I have a relationship? Why do I work, you know, 100 hours a week and make money when my wife or my husband doesn't even care about the money that I make? Why do I have such a poor relationship with my parents, my kid, all of this is from a young age. But there's ways to bring it out into the surface. You just had to, you were forced to bring it out into the surface or else you would have died. A hundred percent. But when I did a, I did Bradley a couple of times. My boy, I was maybe brother this year. I think I did, again, I was talking about the biohacking. I even do like frequency in my brain. It's this incredible center in West Lake Village, California called Sports IQ and Browitz next level stuff. They can measure your emotions with it and they can actually work on that. So like, it's mind blowing to me that like, when you're literally in that place, like, listen to us. Like, there is ways out there that you can watch this interview right now because of Scott's brilliant platform and there's hope for everybody if you're in that dark place. Like, it's all out there now and it's affordable and some it's free. Well, this is all free. You know, on YouTube and Apple, it's fine. It's all free. You know what I'm saying? But like, I'm saying some of the biohacking stuff and, you know, Gary Breckett got me set up a 10 X and he was like, you know, some of that, to some of that cost, but there's so much that doesn't. There's so many quick fixes on a daily that you can, if you have an apartment and you have a shower, I don't care if it's a ship box. Your shower works. Run a cold shower for a minute first thing in the morning. Watch what it does to your endorphins, don't mean go for a walk around the block, take your shoes off, walk on the grass for 15 minutes, consistently do start that routine for a week and read a couple good books. You know what I think it is? I think that the theme or the idea that will help the most people that I speak about a lot, it's just like ownership over your own shit. This is David Goggins. This is, this is the Apple willing. I think it's one of the first things I said to you. It's not your mother, father, sister, brother, husband, wife, own it. It was me. Nobody like, when you talk about ownership, like if you were to take in that green demoral sleep boy camp, I don't think it's gonna have the same effect on you that it had on me. It had it on me because I suppressed. I didn't tell the teachers what we're going on. I didn't tell my parents I chose to keep inside the way that I was feeling. So I have to own everything that I did. So I want to give you the opportunity to connect with you. I know your book was a while ago, but obviously if they want to get your book, they can get it Amazon wherever you get your books. Where else should they go? Like social media and Instagram is at agent underscore DP. My father once he free the aiming high foundation website is aiminghighfoundation.org. I'm still on Facebook. Darren Prince, Los Angeles. I'm on LinkedIn somewhere. But yeah, I mean, this isn't about business. Prince Mark and a group is the agency. I can care less if somebody reaches out on that. I prefer if we can get at least one person from this interview that reaches out and says, I saw your interview with Scott and I'm struggling. They're gonna find out how quickly I'll get on the phone. Not not text messages. Literally, we'll have my office set up a call and see if I could do more of God's work as an ambassador for him for him saving and changing my life because there's nothing that means more to me. What would be your last message as somebody who's struggling right now? You know, you don't have to live this way anymore. I've been there. I know where you're at and you can truly go through the dark and come out on the light and have a life blender while do streams, but you can't give up and you have to be open to talk about it. You gotta be able to tell somebody like me or a family or a loved one what's going on. The strength is in being vulnerable. You know, not hiding it. You know, when you're able to just come out and have that freedom of saying everything and not hiding it, the miracles start to happen.