A Look Into The Mind Of A Podcaster w/ Podcaster & Chancer Collective #scottsthoughts

Welcome to Success Story, the most useful podcast in the world. I'm your host, Scott D. Clary, and today you are going to hear me on the podcaster podcast. The podcaster podcast put on by the chance collective is an interesting podcast where it asks host a variety of random questions about their inspiration for starting their own podcast, so it speaks to podcast host. It's a little bit of a weird feeling because when you're doing the podcast, you're just talking to basically a robot that asks you questions about where your inspiration and creativity comes from. So this is a podcast that is definitely focused on my story, but I really hope that you can pick up on some insights that I have in terms of motivation and creativity and what drives me. And I think that if you get anything out of it, it'll be a little bit of my backstory, but also how somebody who is a creative and who tries to build stuff, how they think or how they try and think about building something or their next thing and some of the things that drive me to do what I do. So I hope you enjoy. If you want to see more of these or hear more of these, go check out the podcaster podcast, but this is me being invited as a guest on the podcaster podcast. I want people to really understand the stories of people that we look to as successful in their own in their own field and their own right in their own industry and learn from them. Hello, listener. My name is V, the voice of pod and I am the host of podcaster. Podcast is a show where I ask podcast creators a number of random questions. Then they give spontaneous open and honest answers about life and the podcast they have created. Hello, podcaster. Hello, V, please introduce yourself and your podcast to our listeners. My name is Scott D. Clary. I am the host of the success story podcast. Thank you for joining us, Scott. How are you today? I'm great. Thank you. How hopefully hopefully you're doing okay as well. Are you ready? Ready as I'll ever be. Let's go. Right. Let's begin. Where did the idea behind your podcast come from? So the idea behind my podcast success story didn't originally start off as success story. The podcast started off under the name and the brand sales versus marketing and I originally created it to build out a podcast that was in line with the work that I do. So I'm a career long sales and marketing executive and I wanted to create a podcast and a show that interviewed sales and marketing leaders and really taught entrepreneurs strategy about building businesses. I realized very quickly that there's a lot of sales and marketing podcasts out there and I felt like I was being redundant in what I had created and I wanted to widen it a little bit while still providing value. So the thought process was, okay, so Scott, how do you like to learn and how do you like to or what type of shows do you like to listen to? And I loved Tim Ferris and I loved the types of guests he brought on but I also realized that there was a lack of tactical business focus for entrepreneurs listening to that podcast. What I wanted to do is I wanted to bring in highly successful individuals in both traditional business roles, CXO, entrepreneur, but also in perhaps non-traditional roles, just people that have had incredible lives and interview them, unpack their story, highlight their wins, their losses, their successes and their failures. And really just show, I guess, an unpack the playbook that they've built over their career so that people that are earlier on in the career call them entrepreneurs, people that are highly ambitious within organizations or entrepreneurs could learn from these people. And the main goal is that people get a little bit smarter, grow a little bit personally and professionally every time they listen to an episode. What do you hope people will learn from listening to your podcast? I want people to really understand the stories of people that we look to as successful in their own field and their own right and their own industry and learn from them. But I want them to not just look at the end result. I want them to back up to, I want them to, when they listen to an interview, understand that these people all started from relatively humble beginnings, all had good and bad things happen to them along their journey and their career. And then I also want people to learn from those ups and downs and positives and then I want them to see the final result or final iteration of that person where they're at right now today and then pick up some additional knowledge because after these individuals incredible careers, they have an expertise in a certain thing or a certain field that they can teach to the guests and the listeners. So that's what I really hope people take away. I hope that they really take away the story and the background of the incredible people I interview and then hopefully get a little bit smarter and a little bit brighter listening to the unique niche industry experience or life experience that these people can teach over when I interview them. What is your worst personality trait? My worst personality trait is it's interesting because I don't just do the podcast. I have a story here. So I also work. I still work in nine to five and the podcast is a is a highly successful side hustle. And this will eventually dovetail into my worst personality trait, but I am a perfectionist and I try and create everything so that it's the best possible version of that thing. And that's difficult enough when you are just doing one thing, let alone trying to do a side hustle or working on a project outside of the nine to five. So my worst personality trait is over engineering and over perfecting the things that I put out and the reason why it's a bad personality trait is because if you want any chance of succeeding at anything in your career or in your side hustle or anything you're building, you will never be 100% perfect when it ships when you put it out into the world. And if you waited until it's 100% perfect, then it's too late. So you can look at that in terms of building a brand for a podcast, but I, you know, I have to work on even after shipping an episode and after making the edits and because I've learned how to do all this myself when I first started podcasting and doing the video editing and the audio mastering. If there's a small error or if there's something that doesn't sound quite right after it's rendered and after it's been edited and I spent, you know, an hour and a half to hours working on it, you can't always go back and fix it, you have to ship it. And I think that that mindset of doing your best possible work and shipping without without needing to perfect everything you do in life will take you a lot farther. And this is not saying that you do shitty work and do bad work, but it is saying that there is some merit in having some sort of velocity in your career, taking the jump to the next, you know, the next role, the next company or shipping the next project without spending too much time thinking whether or not you're worth it or you're good enough or the products good enough. So I think that that's something that professionally has been something that I've had to combat and constantly constantly try and overcome. Are you superstitious? No, I'm not really. I'm at all. I am spiritual. I believe in, I believe in God by whatever definition that is in terms of a higher power or a higher being. But I'm not, I'm not superstitious. I'm not, I feel like I feel like I wasn't, you know, I was, I was never really brought up in a family that was superstitious. It was a very, it was a, it was a, it was a North American family and and like a very traditional like, you know, very traditional North American upbringing. And I never really had any exposure to that growing up, any sort of superstition or anything like that that you do find in some cultures that, you know, that have much more, I guess not religious and older ties to superstition and spirituality and whatnot. So I never really had that growing up. It wasn't really a thing that was discussed superstition or anything like that growing up. And I think that's why I sort of ended up the way I am, which is really not superstitious at all. Comedy or horror? Hmm. I would have to say, I would have to say comedy. I would have to say comedy. I don't mind, I don't mind horror. I would, I would default to, I enjoy more comedies than horror. And the reason why is because I like, I like good horror, but I don't like jump scene horror. Where the only reason why you're scared is because they did this big, loud bang, whatever sound and that like, you know, blew your speakers in your, in your home theater and that's what, that's what made you jump. I like thriller that makes you think like psychological stuff that gives you chills, but I find that most horror unfortunately just defaults to these like gotcha scenes or whatever they're called. So because of that, I'm going to default to, I think I've enjoyed more comedy than horror movies. What's been one of the most interesting things you've learned, making your podcast? One of the most interesting things, there's a question that I ask in my podcast, of course, because of the title of the podcast, I ask people what success means to them. And now it seemed to just be very common because I hear the same answer again and again and again and again. And these are people that are, they have achieved significant success. So we're talking about people that are worth significance amount of money or have achieved incredible amounts of fame or have multiple exits. They've sold multiple companies, like people that have, you know, by any definition, somebody would look at that person and be like, that individual is highly successful. But the number one answer, regardless of how much money they've made or wherever they're at in their career has always been freedom, freedom to do whatever they want to do. I think that that's one of the most interesting, I guess, you know, aware in it, like just, you know, me just being aware of what really matters to people once they've achieved success and achieved financial success or whatever they're different, whatever the, whatever the, I guess, definition of success may be that, that you may assume. I assume people sort of tie, you know, tie to what success is. I think that realizing that regardless of where people are at in their life, the ability to do what you want to do and not feel like you're being forced to do something that you don't want to do is. It seems to be the sort of the key to success, but I would even say that's what really makes people happy and really makes people feel like they've lived a fulfilled life if they have the freedom to wake up in the morning and to do what they want to do. And that's something that I think is sort of guided my career, my path and what I take on and what I focus on, but also it's just a very interesting commentary on the human existence and what really matters to people. So that's very interesting to me. Is it better to go with your head or your heart? For me, I, so I know, I know that, okay, so let's break this down. So I think that most people will say go with your head, but they really do go with their heart. And I say this because my background is in sales and there's a sort of a saying in sales, people make a decision with emotion and justify with logic. So even if, even if you feel that you're making a decision logically, there's a very good chance if you, if you are like most people, you are going to make an emotional decision first regardless of whether or not you like it. That being said, I think that I think that if I think that you have to be cognizant of how, how good your gut instinct is or how good your read on people or situations are. And if you feel like when you lead with your heart and you lead with your emotions, you don't get burned, you make the right decisions and the outcome is a net positive, then I would say that you can continue along that path. But I think it's important to be aware of the end result of that emotion decision, emotional decision making because if it has led you down the wrong road or it's made you burned you a couple of times led you into bad relationships, personal, personal relationships or business relationships. Then maybe it's, maybe it's better to default to taking a logical stance on things and I guess personally for me, I've actually seesawed back and forth. So when I was very young, I would usually lead with emotion with my heart, which in business and personal, which led to bad outcomes, I for many years was very pragmatic and logical in my approach to decision making. And by adopting that pragmatic and logical approach as I matured, I found that I could trust my gut instinct more because I would now just default to better decisions. So just be cognizant and aware of where your heart leads you and if it doesn't lead to a good place, then I would second guess, double check, do do diligence and maybe have a personal sounding board for everything that you make a decision on. What's your favorite sandwich? My favorite sandwich. My favorite sandwich. I would say, I would say, oh, this is such a, oh, the girlfriend's not going to be happy with this answer, but I love, I love, I love subway, which is such a, it's such a not bougie basic sandwich, but I, I love some of the subway sandwiches. Like, I love the pizza sub. I love steak and cheese. All that stuff is just, I don't know, I just find it such a guilty pleasure and it's just delicious and you can literally make it anyway you want. So I always, whenever I want to just not worry about what to eat, that's sort of my go to fast food. Who inspires you? My girlfriend and soon to be, and soon to be wife, God willing, just because the pandemic sort of pushed push that off. She inspires me because she has built incredible things in her life. She, she has a company with her family and, and she inspires me just because they've been so successful at what they've built all of them, but also the fact that she builds an incredible business while maintaining such an incredible relationship with her family that she works with day in, day out. I think that's a beautiful thing and, and it sort of combines, you know, most people unfortunately they are either successful in business or with their family life, but you don't see people all the time that really excel at both well. And she does and that really inspires me and that's what, that's what's attractive about her to me and that's something that I want to, you know, when we were married, we have kids, that's what I would hope that, you know, sort of permeates our family. Do it today, I'll leave it till tomorrow. This is an easy question. It's always a, this is a, I'm sure you can look at some of my past tweets and I, I, I comment on this, so always do it today. There's actually a woman, a male robins and she goes one step further than just doing it today. She actually has a rule called the five second rule. And what that is is if you don't, if you think of something that you want to do and you don't act on it within five seconds, for example, if you want to go on a run, if you want to start a project, if you want to call a customer, whatever, if you, and you, and you feel like you know you have to do it because it's good for you, but you're going to lack the motivation in 30 minutes an hour, you're going to get distracted, you know, you're pushing it to the back of your, you know, it's not a priority for you. She says to do it in five seconds, start, start taking a task, start doing, start taking on a task, start doing an action that will allow you to do the thing. So you want to go for a run, go to the front door, put on your running shoes. If you want to start a project, open up a word doc and start mapping it out in literally in the next five seconds. As soon as you have time, you take that action right away. So I would say always do it today. Who would you dream guest be on your podcast? Well, the bar is always moving because I have had some of my dream guests on my podcast as it's grown. However, now I would like to, because it is a business-focused podcast, I would like to have the Elon Musk's, the Richard Branson's, the people that are global business leaders and quite literally, you know, they're building out companies and technologies in a variety. In a variety of industries that are changing the way we live. And there's not many people that have the same impact on the world as Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, all these individuals, like the known names that have built these incredible conglomerate of companies at this point for many of them. Those are the people that I want to bring on and unpack their story because I think that they will, and some of these stories are very public, but still the opportunity to feature that in my ecosystem and bring that to my audience would be incredible. What song makes you happy? What song makes me happy? So, I have a very diverse music taste, and the song that I'm going to reference is actually not a song, it's an album. It's a... It's a bed-eyes meets Blue Sty, and it's a mash-up of Frank Sinatra, who I love listening to Frank Sinatra, and notorious BIG, so biggie. I think that I'm pretty sure that's a bed-eyes, I'm going to double-check because... Oh, so best. I got it messed up. It's Bed Sty meets Blue Eyes. Excuse me, I apologize. But I love it. I have it on my YouTube playlist, and I listen to it, and it's an amazing mash-up of two of my favorite artists from two completely different realms that I can't remember the DJ who put it together is, but it's a really good album. Do you believe in love at first sight? I believe in infatuation and lost at first sight, but I do not believe in love at first sight, because, in my opinion, love is your ability to commit to somebody when the initial excitement is gone, and your ability to commit to somebody through life. Life is... Life is tough, and if you can stay with somebody and have somebody by your side, and you stay with them through all your... If they stay with you through all your screw-ups, and you stay with them through all of their screw-ups, that, in my opinion, is the true definition of love. Who would you want to be stranded on a desert island with? Normally, I assume people would pick some sort of celebrity, but you know what? I'm going to switch it up. I'm going to flip the script on this one. I would say my girlfriend, Gina Tash, I would love... You know why I say that? Because we spent two years isolated together in a pandemic, which was about as close to a real life desert island as you can get in terms of not seeing anybody and not communicating that much with the outside world, and I had a great day every single day. So she... She's somebody that at least for me, I don't get sick of. I don't think... I don't think... I don't think people get sick of her, but for me, you know, working from home and spending that much time with her, it was a lot of fun, so I would say her. Do you enjoy being the center of attention? Yes, so it was funny enough. This is an interesting question because I'm an introvert by nature, but I've learned to put myself out there. Obviously, you're speaking to podcasters. You know, I'm building a brand around myself. And I like being the center of attention when I have the energy to be the center of attention. And I don't mind building a brand and a community and have eyeballs looking at me because at the end of the day, in my opinion, that is where I can have the most impact on the world if I have that audience. That being said, that's not my constant state. There's definitely times when I'm much happier with nobody around and just spending time on my own. I don't, for example, if I spend a weekend inside, you know, hanging out, that's perfectly fine for me. So being the center of attention, when life calls for it, I do enjoy, but it's not 100% of the time. What could we all do without? What could we all do without? This is a good question. We could all do without judgment and maliciousness, but how do we actually facilitate that and how do we actually remove something that encourages that? So what I think we could all do without the easy answer that has sort of shown such negativity over the past two years would be social media, but I do not believe that social media is inherently bad. The concept of social media is great and it can do great things. It can connect you to people globally. You can, again, build brands, build audiences, give you an extremely low barrier to entry to build a business to start putting yourself out into the world. So social media is wonderful, but what I think we could do without is certain social media algorithm components that, and these are real things that when you have a certain polarizing opinion about a certain topic, what social media channels and mediums tend to do is they tend to only show you similar and like-minded people that also agree with that particular topic. And I think that that is a horribly poisonous and negative component of social media. So I think that social media would be a lot better if it focused less on just showing you what you thought you wanted to see and instead truly connected people of diverse viewpoints and opinions. Because this, I think we've seen over the past two years, has created divides between countries, country, friends, families, peers, sort of further propagated by the fact that we were not able to see each other in person that I don't think we've ever, we've never really been as divided as we are right now. So I think that that component of the social media algorithm, the world would be a better place without it. Right now I'm trying to do keto, so I'm getting shit every day for not eating enough fruits or vegetables because I just love- I love eating like steak and eggs and cheese and whatnot. But right now it's defaulting to multivitamin, but normally if I'm just eating a regular diet, then don't get me wrong, you can eat a whole bunch of vegetables on keto. I'm just lazy and I haven't cooked in a little bit, so that's something that I gotta pick up. But normally I like fruits more than vegetables, like strawberries, blueberries, bananas, all-time favorite fruit would be grapes in the summer or watermelon, so I would say fruits over vegetable. What's are you too hard on yourself for? Where I'm at in life, I have an incredible job, I have a podcast that's growing every single day. Like I said, it's turned into a sidehouse, so that's turned into much more of a serious sidehouse, so it's doing quite well, it's getting a huge audience, I'm building an incredible following. By all measure, I'm doing well, I'm doing successful, I'm very blessed for what I have in my life and also what I've achieved in my life, but I always measure myself against people that have done more. So I listen to podcasts of people that have exited companies and by the time they're 30, they're worth $X million, and in my mind, if they can't do it, why can't I? It's a silly mindset to have when you have an incredible job and family in life, to say that I'm not where I want to be, even though you have things that many people would do anything for, but at the same time that mindset is what pushes me to always do more. And I think that that mindset, as crazy as it sounds, to many people, I'm assuming, to people that are serial entrepreneurs, to people that have done incredible things in their life. It's a mindset that they'll find similarities with and they'll see in themselves, and I've seen this from interviewing these people as well. I think that sometimes I'm a little bit too hard on myself, everybody else in my family says that I'm too hard on myself and pushing myself too hard, and I work too much, but in my opinion, you have one life to get it right. And I want to push myself as hard as I can now, so when I have kids and when I have a family, I have the freedom to give them whatever they want. That's that's, yeah. What three episodes of your podcast would you recommend new subscribers? So, the first one that I would recommend, it was one that I did early on, I was punching a little bit above my weight class when I landed this guy as a guest, but I'm happy that I got him. So Guy Kawasaki, I can't remember which number, but it was early on. The reason why you should listen to it is for two reasons. Number one, you can see if you watch that podcast and you can watch a podcast, now I would hope you can see some difference in my ability to host guests and to ask good questions and to bring out good information. And you can see my growth as a podcaster, while reason number two, simultaneously hearing a story from an incredible individual, one of the first employees at Apple, just an all around smart, incredible man who's done so much with his career by Kawasaki. And another one that I really liked was Anthony Scaramucci, he's an investment and finance guy, he's probably most famously known for being the director of communications for Trump for I think was like 12 days before Trump fired him. And I like that podcast because he's not a traditional entrepreneur, it's not like he built a software company and exited it or IPO, but he's a very smart guy and he had one line that he had a couple entrepreneurial lessons that I really, really thought were great. Like knowledge nuggets and little tidbits that anybody who's earlier on the career could really listen to and learn from, but the one thing, the one thing that he said that really resonated with me that had a powerful impact with me and I look like, you know, he said success is confidence in yourself to the point that where you know that if say you had a hundred million dollars in the bank and you lost it all, you lost everything, you lost all your connections, your network, you lost your home, your family, all your money. And he said success is knowing that if I lost everything that I have and I went back to a one bedroom condo apartment in Brooklyn with like jeans and a white t-shirt and a negative bank balance and no connections. I'm confident enough in my abilities that I could do it all again and to be able to get to that level of confidence and comfort in your own abilities, I think that's an amazing thing and I think that's what everybody should try and do. And the last one was an incredible, another incredible entrepreneur of an S event Edwards. She's just a classic example of somebody that was an introvert by nature. She needed to learn how to communicate better and how to put herself out there. So she learned and then she took that a step further and she thought, well, if I'm learning this skill that has been positive has had a positive impact on my life, I'm sure other people would like to learn this skill as well. And she monetized her knowledge, she with a webcam in her kitchen or her living room or something just filmed herself teaching, she teaches like the art of communication, a successful communication like that's it, like how to successfully communicate with other individuals how to have more self confidence, et cetera, et cetera. And she recorded this course and I'm not saying everybody has to have a course, but she just put it out onto you to me and that's what basically launched her entire career. It was creating an asset, monetizing her knowledge and putting herself out there and that's one way that you can start a side hustle or to start to build a brand or to start to build a business and she's like the perfect example of somebody that just took exactly what they knew and turned it into a business model. Now she is now at this point, she has a huge following. She teaches courses on communication globally, she does key notes globally, you know, she's made an incredible, you know, an incredible life from just putting herself out there and I think that's very, it's a very positive takeaway and just a good, a good person to look to for if she did this with very few tools, very little resources, anybody else can do it as well. What defines success? Ah, and the question, the question that I like to ask everybody, what defines success? What defines success? Well, I said freedom and freedom, you know, that's what most of my guests have told me is what defines success for them. For myself, I think, I think freedom is a component of success, but also, um, always part of what in my opinion success is is achieving that freedom. But always having a purpose for living. So I think that it's important to achieve freedom in your life, but I think that it's also important to have a purpose or a goal for living and not just make a lot of money and never work again. And work has so many different definitions and meanings, but I see a lot of people the second they stop having purpose in their life, that's when they die, that's what, you know, people retire, they just lose, they lose purpose and they lose meaning. And I think that that's, that's what humans need to survive. So have freedom, achieve freedom, but always have purpose and that purpose can manifest in a variety of ways. But I think that you always have to have some sort of purpose and some sort of milestone for you to achieve and for you to try and push towards at every single point in your life, in your personal and professional life, because I think that when you lose all meaning and you just have freedom, that's, that's the start of a very slow death, in my opinion. That's all the questions completed. How did you find the experience? I loved it. I absolutely loved it. I loved the questions. I loved the, the you forcing me to think and to, and to sort of go a little deep. It was, it was an incredible, it was an incredible podcast, incredible format. Thank you again, Scott, for being a guest on Portcaster. It was nice to meet you. It was nice to meet you too, V. Thank you for listening to this episode of Portcaster. If you haven't already, please subscribe, rate and review. You can find us on Twitter and Instagram at Portcaster.port. This podcast was brought to you by the Chancellor Collective. Take care and until next time, goodbye. .