Lessons - Why Watching Content All Day Is the New Form of Self-Sabotage | Chase Jarvis - CreativeLive Founder & Author of Creative Calling

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In this lessons episode, discover why action matters more than endlessly consuming information.

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Understand how deconstructing successful people can reveal useful patterns, explore why attention and experimentation are critical to making progress, and uncover how trusting intuition can help align decisions with the life and work that truly matter.

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You know, there's Alex Ramozzi speaks about this and he paints a really good picture.

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Like when you when you have nothing to lose, it's like going to the casino and the only option is to stay the same or to win.

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So why don't you just why don't you just keep gambling if the only option is to win?

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Like the upside of doing things differently is infinite.

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So taking shots at entrepreneurship, building your own business, being more creative, like going against the grain, there's unlimited upside.

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I think there's a compounding problem, though, and I'm curious about your opinion on this because I have a strong opinion.

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I think there's a compounding problem that when you look at the potential upside and the people that have done it, in air quotes, and been successful,

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People have a hard time deconstructing the path that it took them to get there.

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So they're like, yes, I get that there's upside, but I get that I'm making $100,000, $150,000 in my 9-to-5 right now.

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And the path is opaque.

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It's just blurry.

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And I can't see it.

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And I don't know if you have a strategy or if it's something people are born with.

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I seek it out purposefully now in my own life, but I try and reverse engineer how people got there because that makes it psychologically a little bit less scary.

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Yeah, for sure.

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And as I've said, success leaves clues.

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There was something in my last book, which was called creative calling.

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There is a framework called DEAR, D-E-A-R, deconstruct.

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emulate, analyze, and repeat.

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You deconstruct the lives that you see other people leading.

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I wonder how to use Alex Hermosi.

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Well, he's very clear.

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He told you how he did it.

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The reality is you can find out largely in this world that we live in today, a lot of the attributes, the risks, the understandings that

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people that you look up to, respect, admire, you can deconstruct their lives.

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I did that originally with photography, with artists.

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I'd look at all the artists in the 70s, 80s in New York.

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I loved, you know, Robert Rauschenberg, Andy Warhol.

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How did they build their career?

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What did they do?

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I read books.

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I, you know, watched documentaries.

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I just devoured information about them.

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You can do that again today.

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It's even easier on the internet or, you know, following someone's career, listening to their podcast.

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You can deconstruct the steps that anyone else took.

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You emulate them.

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Start, you know, you have to act like a pro before you are them.

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you have to act like the person that you want to be before you are them.

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You have to, what are the habits that the people that you aspire to be like have built?

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Can you build those habits and then analyze what is getting you closer to your goals?

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and what is taking you further away from them, do more of the things that are making you closer to your goals and do less of the things that are pulling you away from them, and then you repeat the things that are working.

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This is a very, you know, it's a very available system to us.

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And yet, where we stumble...

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is in the attention, our attention.

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The first chapter of my new book, Never Played Safe, is about attention.

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Because rather than being very intentional about following someone who's doing what you have a vision for yourself, you might want to do something like that, and taking action in the same way that they've done it,

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we get trapped watching endless videos of not just them, but anybody who's like them.

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And we believe that that's getting closer to our goal.

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And the reality is that it's like 10% planning, 90% action.

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You cannot achieve any of this stuff from the couch.

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And so to the person that you've fictitiously oriented us around at the beginning of this question, the person who is in a nine to five and making a hundred grand

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No judgment at all.

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But if you find that you are seeking something beyond where you're at right now, it's not what are you watching?

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What are you thinking about?

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It's what are you doing?

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What action?

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What steps are you taking?

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And I would encourage you to look into your, if you don't even know what kind of business you want to build, or you don't know what your next career move is.

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Have you experimented?

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Are you actually doing stuff?

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Are you playing in the areas that are interesting to you?

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Because that's where the best stuff is.

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That's where you have been aligned in your past.

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Those are the areas that are worth exploring.

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And the cool thing is when you do things that you love, the world happens for you, not to you get more energy, not less.

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You know, it's like a tractor beam for those Star Wars nerds out there towards the best shit.

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And yet,

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The world would have you believe you have to intellectualize all this stuff, do it from the couch.

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Your mind has been hijacked because you're endlessly scrolling, looking for more Alex Ramosis rather than, you know, trying to base.

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Instead of trying to be a second rate him, what about a first rate you and the thing that you want to be, do or become?

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There is a, you touched on something.

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I've thought about this a lot.

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It seems like, of course, there's different audiences we're speaking to, but the audience that is listening to this is probably not an audience that has an issue trying to consume more information because they're listening to this podcast, right?

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But it almost seems like we're over-indexing on just knowledge.

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It's almost in vogue.

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to just learn shit.

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Listen to podcasts on 1.5x too.

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How fast can I listen to as many podcasts as I possibly can?

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Or how many books can I read every single week?

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And it's just funny how people just...

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They want to do everything except do the fucking work.

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It's like everything else but doing the work.

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Totally.

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Well, and this is, you know, again, the way that the pattern that this book is presented is a pretty simple one.

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And that I have, again, deconstructed what has worked for me and where I have gone wrong, has worked for many of my friends and peers and the highest performers in the world and what has gone wrong for them.

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And essentially landed on the fact that there are seven tools that naturally reside within us.

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And that's the cool thing.

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We don't have to go looking for them.

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They're already there.

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That will help us find this alignment.

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And I mentioned attention.

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I'll go back to it again.

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At some point, the endless scrolling, the endless information consumption...

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That is a hijacking of your attention, not you directing it towards action.

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Right?

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That is, and that is a absolutely fundamental thing.

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You cannot, you cannot, none of the people that you respect, admire, appreciate got what they have in life, learned the lessons, were able to, you know, create the success and most importantly, the fulfillment that they feel through thinking about it.

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It's all through doing, right?

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No, 100%.

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I'm curious, out of those seven traits, which one did you personally have the most trouble with manifesting or living?

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Those.

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I think our intuition is the thing that we, it's the most powerful thing that we know the least about.

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The weird, crazy thing is if you pay attention to actual science around intuition,

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It's becoming pretty compelling.

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The results about the understanding of the rational mind, instead of that being the most impressive default mode to the human being, we actually find that the rational mind is sort of slow and prone to errors and that intuition incorporates the rational mind.

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the rational mind, plus a bunch of other stuff.

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And the reality is that we have, you know, trillions of cells in our body and they all have, there's memory within all of those things.

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This is why it's a gut feeling.

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You feel these things in your body and not in your head.

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Now, the cool thing is that the highest performers, they have developed, they have attuned to trust their intuition.

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And this is not to say that intuition is always right.

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However, if you are wondering where you ought to be going in your life, if this is something that is in line with your values or not, this is usually not a heady experience.

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It is a head, heart, gut, body feeling.

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It's a whole sort of body alignment.

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And, you know, when my...

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When my family, for example, was saying, oh, you're smart and hardworking and talented, you should be a doctor or a lawyer or whatever.

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Of course, as you know, the impressionable 16 year old in me was like, OK, cool.

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What do what do like hardworking, talented people?

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OK, that's what they do.

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And yet.

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I knew that in my bones from day one.

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And yet.

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hundreds of thousands of dollars in student loan, years off track, only to find myself partway through that journey realizing that I knew all along that this was not the right thing.

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And you can, you know, copy and paste that into a hundred different areas of our lives.

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And yet, if I told you that, what did you really, really want to

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As a kid, this is why my number one journal entry is what do I really want?

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I'd soft.

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I often journal on this for 30 days straight and you get 1% smarter and more accurate.

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And it's a fascinating exercise.

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When you start to be able to tune into that intuition and listen to it and trust like this business partner or that, this business dealer or that.

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Um, it's, uh, it's a pretty powerful thing.

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So for me, that was a big one, mostly because the world, the people who love us and care for us are, you know, want again, the illusion of safety for us.

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And yet knowing that it doesn't exist, how do we, how do we strengthen that muscle within us?

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So to me, again, being able to direct your attention.

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Fascinating quote from Andrew Huberman, the professor at Stanford.

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He said, attention is the most, I think it's the most important deciding factor between success and failure in any endeavor.

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It's the most important thing in any line of like pursuit.

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the ability to direct your attention.

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And yet, here we are, you know, stuck on our devices, scrolling endlessly.

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So in the book, I'm very specific about how you can get better at developing your attention, how you can get better at listening to your intuition.

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And again, I just default to the people who so many of us respect and admire, either in our personal lives that we actually know or our parasocial lives, the people that we see on the Internet that we respect and appreciate, that we're not going to be able to do that.

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I'm telling you, they are world-class at these attributes.